1222-1227 Defense Discussions

[The_Fixer]

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Table talk (Bibracte)

My understanding is that the +3 levels of size increase is to cover the smallest coherent boundary both inside and out of the regio. What would this "normal" sized option cover? I was actually thinking about an armageddon scenario, where Mons Electi is overrun and we have to flee. The further, the better. Like Novgorod further (No, Isen is not aware of the Mongol threat) With a gate inside the covenant, a place where people gathered to flee. Given that I know 7-league stride, if I do this a…

@amul

My understanding is that the +3 levels of size increase is to cover the smallest coherent boundary both inside and out of the regio. What would this "normal" sized option cover?

Ah. I thought about covering only the buildings. Maybe we can fashion a boundary for them (like walls, or a trench!!!)

@amul

Oh. Or you could make Greater Invested Device/Statues which only accept mental commands, but offer unlimited uses. Or instead of mental commands, you could make them emotional triggers! A teleportation device which only works on people who are truly afraid!

I don't want unlimited uses.
Charged items are great because:

• They don't use vis
• They use the full lab total
• Once we're gone, it the items stays behind, he can't be used.

To be clear, I was also thinking in "cool factor" terms So I also like the statues, although a gate, aside from the "Stargate Effect" has a good SM bonus.

@amul

"You over-complicate things. You just need somewhere to store the elemental and a device that summons and banishes it."

Which also implies 2 effects.
One of them being a teleport spell cast at arcane range, to summon the elemental. I barely managed to invest the Leap of Homecoming in my talisman. I doubt I could do something similar at Arcane Connection range.
Also, your solution implies carrying in permanence 2 ACs, one to that specific elemental, the other to the storeroom.

So, you see, it is you who over-complicate things, in fact

@amul

You'd still be grabbing everyone in the building, including any enemies.

Yes
Although if the ennemies all have MR, this works against us: I can coordinate the covenfolk, while their very protection will stop our assaillants from hearing them.
Unless, of course, they bring their shield grogs with them, in which case they lose their main advantage, their mobility.
Notwhistanding, of course, that any grog not protected by Parma should have been taken out by our Wall-triggered defenses. And those who are can't eavesdrop on us anyway :wicked: