character design and development

I think Raz needs a spot on the planning sheet.

first Raz needs to be added to the wiki then reviewed and approved.

My Ex Miscellanea -Pharmocopea, Davos is now up on the wiki with a full breakdown of his development. Comments welcome.

I will work on my apprentice PC as soon as the parens is settled.

Thanks
John

John, could you provide Davos' Arts, Abilities and spells as of 1143? I see a talisman and familiar in there. Could you provide another wiki page with the current stats of your familiar, including the values of your cords?

What you have is hard to read and parse.

Also, since you've chosen a dwarf-sized character, your wound penalties need to be 1-3, 4-6, etc.

Edit, looks like you've already trained one apprentice, and are beginning the game to teach a second.

Will do. It was all much easier to understand as an excel spreadsheet before I cut and pasted it in. I agree, it is a pain in the behind as it looks now.

Should get it done by end of Boxing Day.

I certainly get that. My home game has a spreadsheet for character creation (and grog management since we only give them 15xp a year) and it keeps track of that. copying the spreadsheet to a text format falls apart pretty hard. I rather like the standard format that this game uses, and have started tracking my home character with that format.

I note you do not have an ability in Ancient Greek, which is the language used for magic in the tribunal of Thebes... while it does default to Romaic Greek a magus trained in Thebes really should have an ability in ancient Greek.

There should also be a final/current sheet at the top with updated abilities.

Is this as well as Latin or instead of Latin?

It would normally be instead of Latin, but since you will be operating in the Roman tribunal you will probably want to have both, unless you want to be reliant on Prosperina for translation (really she won't mind, it will elevate her status at the covenant).
There will also be the issue of whether you are remaining as a member in good standing of the Theban tribunal or whether you are joining the Roman tribunal... and potential stories that might come from that.

OK, I have gone to for both and increased age by 2 years to accommodate the increased XP spend. Thanks for whoever reformatted my page data, it really helped in the interpretation of the advancement data. I also stole some of the other format from some of the other magi write ups so it looks an awful lot better and readable now.

Thanks again
John

Two questions:

Are Osias and Antonio ready to play?

Should Davos and Osias will start at the same time, so we can play each other's mentors?

Osias still only has 5 points in stats instead of the standard 7, 8 points in virtues with 7 points in flaws, and is still without an accounting of time after gauntlet by which to assess progress and values of longevity rituals.
Antonio is ready, but would still need a parens.
Also I would like to note that conventionally each parens has had to go on an adventure to locate their apprentice, not come to the covenant with an apprentice to be in tow. I can see an exception for Davos given his backstory and the inter-tribunal politics, but otherwise the magus should be in the covenant first.

  1. The Dwarf Flaw applies a -1 to Str and Sta. (ArM5, p.53)
  2. Puissant Magic Theory is the house virtue for Bonisagus.
  3. I'll create a sub-page with the historical development. Edit: completed.
  4. Will correct, so that Osias doesn't start with an apprentice.

aging rolls begin at 35, meaning that with 6 rolls that involved at minimum apparent aging her apparent age should be 38, not 39 (which a typo in development puts at 30 there)
you didn't list your gauntlet spells in your development, but at this point I am going to trust the accuracy of that. Fully approved.

regarding Sabbas only 2 quibbles- neither of which are enough to not approve:

  1. I would really recommend using the 2 extra virtue points from dwarf- even if they are for "hereditary" virtues that will manifest later.
  2. I'm not sure a specialization in underwater swimming is a good idea below level 3. Maybe ocean instead? Or simply breath holding?
  1. Added Free Study and Independent Study as the 2 additional virtues as they seem to form a theme with apt student
  2. Changed swimming specialisation to "sea" as suggested as he is from Locri and so would be swimming in the Mediterranean/Ionian seas

Thanks
John

Actually I don't think I want a Hermetic virtue but rather a "learning virtue" so changing Free Study to "Linguist" from HoH:TL page 25 as this fits better with the concept I have in mind.

A couple of questions about development:

  1. Is Affinity with Magic Theory considered a Hermetic Virtue? My reading of Apprentices, p. 41 is that only Hermetic Virtues can be passed from parens to student.

  2. Familiars developing: It requires a number of experience points to develop a new Quality, as per RoP: Magic, p. 52. If my familiar learns to read, can it simply read Ibis' tractatus on the subject and gain the Improved Characteristics Quality? Err, actually in the Magical Library, they are listed as summae, is that right?

technically affinity with magic theory and puissant magic theory are neither hermetic virtues, yet the later is passed through Bonisagus lines, and I would certainly expect the former to be teachable as well- it may not be strictly hermetic, but it is magic related. Also supernatural virtues can be taught as well, as often happens in ex-miscelania. I suppose a Verdituous could even pass down affinity or puissance with craft...

A lot of Houses have non-Hermetic virtues that get passed down by their traditional teaching (Ex Misc , Bonisagus, Jerbiton, Tytalus). Technically, yeah, by the rules you can only teach the Hermetic, which doesn't include any Puissant or Affinity for abilities (even Hermetic, etc) or Supernatural. You CAN just teach gifted people any Supernatural abilities they have via the baseline rules (need over 20 teaching I think? I'll have to look it up.)