Covenant Building

So, that would be a regio accessible by Halie, Doineann, and maybe Eilid? Tbh, I'd rather not have a regio that's only accessible by one pc, unless they had a Virtue or Flaw for it.

Me too...I wasn't planning on running a campaign where every other seasonal thread starts off with a cry of "Frack! Here they come again!" An occasional raid, unwelcome visitors come the holidays, that's one thing. But not all the bloody time.

Also, don't forget that +3 is the default Magic Aura for magi, which (to me) means that the majority of magi make their homes in a "stunted" Aura.

All of the Regio Boons state that the covenant lies within the Regio. It's only with the Hooks that you have the option of having the Regio within the Covenant instead of vice versa...and I'm expanding that definition to have the regio be within the covenant's right-of-way because I can see story potential with that.

My commentary about it not being a hook was more on the nature of it being of limited access to characters, with the purpose of it being setup as a place for a lab.

I only suggested the limited access in the event that it was not of interest to others' characters.

I would prefer to have all the labs there.

Regarding aura strengths, I've played a ton of Ars Magica, and never had an aura below 4, and that only once. In my experience they're almost always 5, though a few times I've seen 6, and once I played a mostly Merinita covenant with a faerie aura of 8.

If something is to be done I'd like it to be available for everyone. That means it needs to include a spot big enough for a ship among other things.
I'm perfectly fine with everything as it is now, though.

As near as I can tell, I'm still short 44 Covenant Build Points from qcipher and 50 from ladyphoenix, as well as Personal Build Points from Jonathan.Link and ladyphoenix. If I'm wrong, let me know.

I'm fixing to send pm to arya, qcipher, and darkwing to verify that what I have for there personal bp is correct. Once I get the confirmation or corrections, that's it – no takebacks :smiley:

Any edits or additional covenant build points need to be done by tomorrow (20 April) so I can finalize the covenant.

My personal BPs are detailed here: https://forum.atlas-games.com/t/talia-of-tytalus/6655/57.

The table has 54, the lab is 20, and 1 bp is used for silver, used to purchase the Extensive Stores Virtue, and there is some remainder (4 pounds of silver).

I underspent by 7 BPs on the core spending - can that go into upgrading the level of one of our crappier arts summae?

I'm on record as being personally against this. I spent the BPs as I did precisely because it makes sense that these books would have been left behind.

7BPs will buy a lot of Vis to go into stores.

I confirmed the personal bps with Peregrine, but I guess I still owe another 40+? Is that correct? if so, I'll get those tonight, don't have my books with me.

I'm thinking maybe some magic items.

I'd prefer that the books already submitted not be upgraded – fleshed out, yes, maybe with titles and/or authors*, but the level/quality be left as is.

7 BP will, as JL said, buy quite a bit of Vis for the stores, or the lab text for a 35th level spell, or a specialist, or a 17th or 18th level Enchanted Item. Or a lot of money.

*otherwise, we're looking at about 27 books by Starswirl the Bearded.

Yes, I did get your reply, as well as Arya's and darkwing's, on the final allocation of your Personal Build Points. Thank you all.

And yes, I'm showing that I still need 44 from you and 50 from ladyphoenix. Magic items might be good.

We probably need to hashout exactly how the higher aura area needs to be handled OOC before doing it in council. Ideally if we're to build labs for all the magi on the island, I'd like for there to be a way to get the Whoa Buoy in that aura, too.

I like the idea of a relic from either the battles against the Spider or from the Schism War, though this is more likely to be against the Spider.

The Black Wand PeCo 50
R: Arcane Connection D: Momentary T: Individual
Instantly kills the intended target. The corpse often has a look of horror engraved on his face. The proud owners of this device often claim it was enchanted by Apromor himself. In reality it is an item enchanted using a much copied lab text from an item that one of his apprentices made. It does suffer some drawbacks. As it was designed to be used on hedge wizards, Penetration was determined to be useless and so was not added. It was also experimented on during its enchantment, while it lost none of its effectiveness, its only range is with an Arcane Connection, it can't be cast on the target without one.
Base 30 R: +4 1 Use per day (+0)

Build points 20

I don't think this item would work on hedge wizards. They would have a form bonus of sorts, no? I think it has to have a minimal level of penetration to overcome the MR 0 situation.

Not the way I understand it. To have 0 MR means you have the Arts opened, which only Hermetic wizards get. The best that Hedgies get is a kind of mitigating defense which is not treated like true MR or even as 0 MR. They might get a bonus against spells that are Targeted for example, or a higher Soak versus certain Form attacks. If they bind a spirit or familiar or something with Might though, then they have real MR.

I'd have to check my Hedge Magic and/or Ancient Magic, but I suspect that hedge wizards do get a form of MR. It's not Parma Magica (which give you a much better MR in addition to nullifying the social effects of the Gift), but it's still MR, much as creatures with Might get. But again, I'd have to check to be sure I'm remembering right.

I also don't see how or why a Flambeau relic would be at a hedgie covenant.

The MRB says that there isn't a general Magic Resistance (except for Hermetic, Divine and Infernal sources), but it is silent about specific resistance. If a hedgie can work some form of Corpus magic, I'd be inclined to give them some basic resistance.
All the fluff written about the Order suggests that it has the BEST magic resistance, not the only. Don't Gruagach do shapeshitfint, and therefore have some limited understanding of Corpus?

I have a couple of ideas.

We'd want to check the various books, Ancient Magic, Hedge magic and that Orders book. I don't recall any of them getting any kind of defense that requires even the least amount of Penetration. I'll have the rest of the stuff up shortly.

Peregrine's got ideas, but my own would be that the Ex Miskers of the British Island have a proud history of valor and action in the war against the Spider and later in the Schism. Not sure how true it is, but it challenges my own preconceptions about them as someone who often plays Flambeau types.