Does magic resistance physically halt enchanted objects?

[angafea]

@YR7

@angafea

I see two explanations for the "Breeze of Death" not working. One is that the mythic paradigm allows for the repelling of vapors, both for good and ill

I don't see how that aids you. It means you won't breath a poisonous air, yes, but it also means you won't breath a roses-scented air.

the other is that air would rush in to fill any void created by these spells from outside the spell effect.

Eh, why would it do that? You're not creating a vaccum, you are changing the air into a different kind of air. The different kind of air is still there, another air won't come in just like it wouldn't speed into a rock if you would have changed the air into a piece of rock.

The vacuum I'm referring to is due to all the rose enchanted air being pushed out of the Parma. Normal air from outside the stinky cloud could rush in to replace it.

I still prefer the idea that the air loses its smell by the time it reaches your nose through your parma (like a Rego'd rock gently touching you), and your lungs do all the work of sucking in the harmless air.

I also totally approve of the Bonisagus patching idea. Brilliant!

[Fruny]

@qcipher

A magus can pick up an actively enchanted item but might have a slight problem gripping it, it would feel 'slippery'.

Who needs Magic Sensitivity when you have Parma? Why then worry about its penalty to MR since only non-mages without MR would bother taking it. OK, maybe for "passive" magic. But I am not happy with Parma as a magic detector.

I also really don't like the idea that enchanted items would feel different. Parma isn't supposed to stop you from acting on magic stuff, only the other way round. The "falling onto a bridge vs. the bridge falling on you" examples from the core book are key to that interpretation.

[YR7]

The patch idea is brilliant.

@qcipher

A magic item with a range of Touch always has to penetrate (even rings and potions). Meaning that a wizard is more likely to either add Penetration to these items while desiging it even if he is the target, or he will suppress his MR while activating.

I play it as the magus lowering his MR when wearing the ring, allowing the magic to sweep over him, and when his MR returns the magic already has "penetrated" it.

[qcipher]

@Fruny

@qcipher

A magus can pick up an actively enchanted item but might have a slight problem gripping it, it would feel 'slippery'.

Who needs Magic Sensitivity when you have Parma? Why then worry about its penalty to MR since only non-mages without MR would bother taking it. OK, maybe for "passive" magic. But I am not happy with Parma as a magic detector.

I also really don't like the idea that enchanted items would feel different. Parma isn't supposed to stop you from acting on magic stuff, only the other way round. The "falling onto a bridge vs. the bridge falling on you" examples from the core book are key to that interpretation.

Decent point, but bear in mind I said that to a magus it 'might' feel slippery. Using your bridge point, yes he could still walk on it, but how would it feel? Would he feel the slightest resistance before his foot touched the bridge or would he actually be walking scant millimeters above it (seems like that would be slippery). Or when he falls into a pit filled with magically created spikes? How does that feel? He either lands on top harmlesly if they are densely packed enough, or falls between them, how does that feel?

Basically some consistency is definitely in order. And at some point someone is going to try the "Does it bounce off my Parma test?" and in all honesty it should work, and considering that that test is nowhere near as imbalancing as the poison-to-water workaround, I'd be OK with that.

BTW thanks to those who like my patch idea.