Hi
I recently developed a system of hermetic prestige for my saga, an alternative to the rewards of experience points and allows magus, at long terms, to obtain recognition from his peers. At first, i submit it in french but i'm currently translate it for your enjoy, and i will link it here as soon as i finish
hello, i just finish translating (sorry for possible mistakes!)
there is a second part which includes the rewards of prestige following the houses of the order, but it strongly depends on how one lives one's saga, mine is a pure fantasy saga which takes places on the schism war period
You probably need more alternatives for "Condition". Unless running a highend XP game, getting any magi to Art 50 is beyond rare even for a player. So, alternate ones for that, like maybe 2 Arts to 30-35 or 4-5 Arts to 20-25...
Overall it looks like a very interesting concept.
I made up a rank system for a covenant once(hopefully this was the correct order), though i didnt do anything nearly as extensive as your prestige system:
Probate Testing for/Starting apprenticeship
Initiate <5 years of apprenticeship
Novice 5-10 years of apprenticeship
Apprentice 10+ years of apprenticeship
Journeyman Magi recently accredited magi
Junior Magi (conditions from here on was very sagaspecific so are not really relevant)
Adept
Magi
Senior Magi
Elder Magi
Master Magi
Grandmaster Magi
High Magi
Archmagi
Great Magi
I love this idea. Our troupe discussed Hermetic standing and prestige recently too, particularly how it would affect interaction with others within the Order. Secondary was how that might change access to other powerful people. I initially was leaning toward a system similar to the one suggested where points are accumulated, which grant levels based upon the points. It seemed a simple method.
That said I would like to see a specialization or descriptor attached to the rankings so that there is a segregation between different styles of magi. ie. a Criamon Archmage probably respects but is totally different from a Tremere or Bjornaer Archmage.
Perhaps the difference is adding house specific modifiers to the tables too, which allow for meta-reputations to be added along with House based rewards and penalties?
yes, and that is why I established a kind of tree development you can see on the blog, not yet translate. It's largely based on HoH's books, but might be substantially matched to your Saga (Archmagi are very very powerful, or just old and full of wisdom and knowledge?) In my saga, magi are very powerful and knwledge to reach 50 in arts exists and could be done in a magus' life!
DIREWOLF75 i agree with you, the system is perfectible and probably need alternatives conditions (that's why i submit it here) maybe an age limit?
So i will upgrade my doc with the prestige rewards by house,if you enjoy, coming soon!
Hi!
Now I adds some suggestions for the promotion exams of titles!
magus Gauntlet
Hermes House rule
magister Master
conditions:
1 art to 20
1 mystical* to 5
Writing test : Invent and broadcast a spell of level 20
Oral test: com + magic theory 6+
Grand mage These
conditions:
1 art to 30
1 mystical* to 9
1 Erudition to 5 and forming an apprentice
Prerequisite: 15 points of breakthrough accumulated on the study topic
Writing test 1 : Invent and broadcast a spell of level 30
Writing test 2 : write a summae level 15(art) or 5 (myst.ability) on the study topic
Oral test: Roleplayed presentation of thesis , com + magic théory at 9+ (bonus RP)
Master/ Arcane's master Ascensio
conditions:
1 art to 40 or 1 mystique* to 12
Prerequisite:
Writing test 1 : A summae on the study topic of the breakthrough
Writing test 2 : Invent and broadcast a spell or rituel of level 40
Writing test 3 : a summae level 20(art) or 7(myst.ability) on the study topic
Oral test 1 : Roleplayed presentation of breaktrough, com +magic theory at 12+
Oral test 2 :1 season making conference at Durenmaar on the study topic (12 rolls com + teaching at 9+)
Archmagus/ Archmaster Consecratio
conditions:
1 art to 50 or a mystical ability to 15
Prerequisite : A major breaktrough on the study topic (45 points)
Writing test 1 : A summae on the study topic of the breakthrough
Writing test 2 : Invent and broadcast a spell or rituel of level 50+
Writing test 3 : a summae level 25(art) or 10(myst.ability) on the study topic
Oral test 1 : Roleplayed presentation of breaktrough, com +magic theory at 15+
Oral test 2 :1 season making conference at Durenmaar on the study topic (12 rolls com + teaching at 9+)
How does a magus gain the title Hoplite? I see the term used in sagas but not where it links to the Order.
Or perhaps some of the other regularly used quasi-cannon terms. Is there room for rhem here?
True Lineages hints on this a bit. It says that Hoplites are given a letter of authority to act as a Hoplite. To my understanding that would come from the Tribunal authorities, Chief Hoplite and/or Praeco.
Up an hi!
someone (who had use it) has some feedback about the hermetic prestige?
in my saga, magi are struggling to pass the rank magister, but they are very taken by the plot and have little time to study...
I did not see a prestige award for achieving arts suitable to train an apprentice (all 15 at 5).
I also didn't see any prestige awards for successfully training an apprentice, having an apprentice killed/stolen, etc.
There's also nothing regarding prestige changes based on the actions of your apprentices. I'd suggest a % of the apprentices gains/losses.
that's a good idea, teaching is absent then it's an important source of prestige for many wizards! i'll intagrate it soon in the system
great thanks kid gloves!