Living talismans

[Erik_Tyrrell]

@Tellus

@Erik Tyrrell

Also, if they initiate sensory magic, the self activating triggers like the howl of a wolf become much easier to target.

Just remember that you (explicitly) cannot use Sensory Magic when enchanting items.

I had forgotten that. I was imagining the pillum of fire from earlier in the conversation burning all who hear the animal's howl.

[Lamech]

@Erik Tyrrell

You know there is the example of Inscription on the soul which is a minor(? serf's parma) virtue that allows the enchantment of a living thing as one's talisman. This would argue against being able to do this without a virtue.

Inscription on the soul does NOT enchant the body. It enchants the soul/spirit. A very important distinction if one tries to become a living ghost.

[Jonathan.Link]

@Lamech

@Erik Tyrrell

You know there is the example of Inscription on the soul which is a minor(? serf's parma) virtue that allows the enchantment of a living thing as one's talisman. This would argue against being able to do this without a virtue.

Inscription on the soul does NOT enchant the body. It enchants the soul/spirit. A very important distinction if one tries to become a living ghost.

The text says it does.

@Ars Magica: The Mysteries

The magus’s spirit and body [emphasis added] are opened initially with 15 pawns of vis (as if “bone and flesh” and “huge” Size in the Material and Size table), requiring a Magic Theory score of 8.

[Xavi]

But the breakthrough part is the "spirit" part, right?

[Lamech]

I stand corrected. However as Xavi says, the special part is the spirit IMO, not the body.

[Jonathan.Link]

@Xavi

But the breakthrough part is the "spirit" part, right?

Sure, but the path through the spirit, or soul, is through the body, I think.

[The_Fixer]

I remembered it being the spirit OR the body, so I checked.

In the first lines of the virtue's description, p69, it says: "This Virtue lets the magus enchant his spirit or body as his talisman".
This has not been errataed.