Maugris

Just browsing through Faith and Flame, and found reference to Maugris of Diedne. Can't blame the authors for co-opting this character from The Matter of France. Though the tales said he aided his cousins in rebellion against Charlemagne, nothing about Maugris being Court Wizard.

Does sort of contradicr my Saga where I had him as an almost Founder, who broke with Bonisagus due to the recruitment of Diedne, and the other Founders approval of Charlemagne.

Perhaps I can say that there were two wizards of very similar names that got conflated in the tales and histories.

Now I am worried that I will find Atlantes in canon material.

I use this POV to resolve contradictions: you aren't playing what happened, but the legends that survived.

Maybe this Maugris of Diedne is how some Trianomae rewrote the past.

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See Realm of Power: Magic for Atlantis.

Atlantes from the Matter of France, who had a castle full of illusions in the Atlas mtns.

I believe @Ben_McFarland is the Maugris-expert on the Faith & Flame team. If I can invoke his name properly, maybe he can shed some more light on this.

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Atlantes is in the North Africa book. Alicia of Cathay is in the books too.

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when contradicting legends survive, do you play all of them?

Yes, if you are willing to retcon yourself.
No, if another Troupe is willing to play that legend. :wink:

Well, you can always have ten different faeries each claiming a piece of a myth, if you want.

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Just got my hands on a copy of Between Sand and Sea.
My quick browse didn't spot either of those two names in the list of inserts, or the section on Atlas Mountains.
Did I overlook them, or are they to be found elsewhere in the book. I am curious as to who "Alicia of Cathay" is

Tim might be referring to Angelica of Cathay, the pagan princess at the heart of Ariosto’s epic poem “Orlando Furioso.” She is a sorceress as well as a princess, and got proposed as an alternative Founder in the first issue of Peripheral Code.

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Angelica is actually from Matteo Boiardo's "Orlando Innamorato" (Roland in love), that Ludovico Ariosto later extends into "Orland Furioso" (Roland gone mad) ... and crucially she is not from Cathay as we intend it today! She comes from "Catai" or "Chatayo", but that's described by Boiardo as a rich and powerful city in Media (i.e. to the south of the Caspian sea in northern Persia - see tCatC map on p.142), homeland of the people who have Magian Lineage (tCatC p.95).

Angelica arrives with her brother Argalia at the war camp of an aging Charlemagne to recruit as many knights as possible - both christian and muslim - to fight in her father's war. She offers the following deal. Argalia will joust one-on-one with any warrior who challenges him. Should the challenger be unhorsed, he will be a prisoner bound to fight in the war. But the first challenger who wins will get Angelica as a prize! Given how beautiful she is, the various warriors almost fight among themselves to be the first to challenge Argalia; eventually they agree to draw lots for the privilege. Little do they know that Argalia is armed with a magical lance enchanted to unfailingly unhorse his opponents :slight_smile:

Another interesting tidbit about Angelica: according to Ariosto she has a ring that placed under the tongue grants invisibility, but if worn on the finger grants Magic Resistance. The ring successfully protects her from a kidnapping attempt by ... none other than Maugris :slight_smile: and will be used later by Maugris' cousin, the she-knight Bradamante, to defeat the wizard Atlantes mentioned earlier in the thread and thus rescue (and unwittingly doom) her Saracen True Love. How has the ring's creator made a leap in magical knowledge (granting MR, and through an enchanted device) that apparently eluded even Bonisagus? Has that ring anything to do with the mighty rings of Verditius?

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Yes, slip of the tongue...

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So sorry for the delay, you caught me at the beginning of swim season!

Maugris is mentioned in F&F, in Chapter 5, page 74, in reference to an item. He's said to have been a guest in Oriande le Fee's court, as well.

He's left as either a potential pretender, or the true Maugris, but a man who may have grown weary and left to die

I left his career and situation purposefully vague, so Storyguides could tailor it to what they wanted

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The reference to Maugris of Diedne may have been an artifact of my earlier draft of the material on Oriende le Fee that Ben later adapted. I recall thinking that if Maugris was a Hermetic wizard who was present at the Founding or joined the Order around the same time, he would have had to join a House, and Ex Miscellanea didn't exist yet. No idea what circumstances would have led him to join Diedne if he was opposed to her joining the Order, but you certainly have my blessing if you want to change his House. :wink:

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