Non-ritual magically created experimental philosophy

[Ramidel]

@Jabir

I'm not a fan of the idea that items created by non-ritual Creo are less than real, in any sense other than being repelled by magic resistance. I reluctantly accept that food and fatigue restoration elixers are thusly limited through some complex application of the Law of Energy, but I don't want to go further.

That's not the Limit of Energy, that's the Limit of Creation. Anything that isn't permanently created disappears when the duration ends.

@Jabir

Let the Lapis Minor have the effect and let it be permanent, just as a magical fire creates heat and magical poison kills. Trying to figure out how to reverse the effect is too messy. It's not as if using Creo to make reagents is notably more game breaking than using Rego to mix up the same reagents anyway.

I agree that the Lapis Minor's effect is permanent - never said anything to the contrary. On the other hand, if you create cement with Moon duration, then you have a problem when that ends. It has nothing to do with being "less real" and everything to do with the substance you used to bind dirt into stone disappearing into thin air.