Questions of Ranges and ongoing effects

[Furion_Transsanus]

@Berengar

This is resolved by ArM5 p.112: "The range is established when the spell is cast, and remains the same even if the magus changes the loudness of his voice. Thus, a Voice range spell can allow silent control, but only as long as the target is within the distance that the magus's voice carried when he cast the spell."

Thank you for the very clarifying reference. Even if I used Voice a fitting example I had not thought of looking at the range in particular - and so it goes that it solves the question. I reckon then that this holds true as well for the other ranges - namely Touch, Sight and Eye (Personal and Arc being of little consequence here).

@Berengar

The description of InAn 25 'Opening the Tome of the Animal Mind' (ArM5 p.118) appears to imply, that a magus must continue to touch the animal whose mind he is reading - so can be made into an argument, that a magus cannot leave casting range, if the Intellego spell shall further supply infomation to him.
Also InIm 5 'Prying Eyes' (ArM5 p.144f) implies that it works only 'as long as you can touch one of its walls'.
From the description of InMe 20 'Frosty Breath of the Spoken Lie' (ArM5 p.149) you can deduce the opposite, however: this spell would be quite useless, if the Quaesitor would have to hold eye contact with the target - as he has to watch its breath for frost at the same time.
I would however use as the most striking example InHe 10 'Intuition of the Forest' (ArM5 p.136), which - as few magi make their boots into their Talismans - makes only sense if it continues to work while the magus ceases to touch the forest.

My conclusions:

• Apparently the author did not think about this problem.
• But there are R:Touch/Eye Intellego spells in ArM5 which - to be generally useful - require that they continue to work while the magus no longer touches the target or holds eye contact with it.
• So the literal interpretation of the ArM5 p.111 rule quoted by Furion Transsanus is the constructive one which causes the least problems: only controlling the effect requires the magus to stay within range of the spell target, not keeping it up. Even if it is an Intellego spell.

In the light of your work and great examples I would agree that this seems to be something the author(s) didnt think about - at least there seems to be no explicit text on ongoing Intellego effects and Range. I have voiced this out of interest - and not because it is currently actual in my own saga. If I was met with a similar situation with my troupe I would probably allow the continued input of information of an Intellego spell even if out of range, at least when keeping with relatively simple things like whether a door is ever opened - as in the thread inspiring this consideration. But I might also rule that if there were specific details or changes in the spell, the range would have to be reestablished.

Anyone out there with an argument against this or the opinion that this should be interpreted differently?