Realm alignment of might stripping spells

[GribbletheMunchkin]

Hello all

Really quick query here.

Do Perdo Vim spells that strip might need to be realm aligned. And if yes, is this in the rules anywhere?

The PeVi guidelines (and errata) don't say that you do have to have a realm specific spell, whereas they explicitly do say that for wards under ReVi, but the example spell (Demon's eternal oblivion) only targets demons.

[Erik_Tyrrell]

In other books there are realm aligned spells for stripping might from faerie and magic targets. Creating vim spells that could apply to all realms is the focus of the Conciatta chapter of Legends of Hermes. The line was written with the expectation that you needed realm specific spells.

[ironboundtome]

there are PeVi versions across a few core books for Fae, Demons, and magical creatures. So based that it seems a yes.
I also half remember a reference about realm specific spells somewhere related to affecting the divine with spells but can’t recall the ref. I’ll hunt if I get time.

[ironboundtome]

The InVi on ARS p.158 specifically calls out different versions of InVi for different realms. So that’s one spot.

[Berengar]

@GribbletheMunchkin

Do Perdo Vim spells that strip might need to be realm aligned. And if yes, is this in the rules anywhere?

The PeVi guidelines (and errata) don't say that you do have to have a realm specific spell, whereas they explicitly do say that for wards under ReVi, but the example spell (Demon's eternal oblivion) only targets demons.

ArM5 Guidelines are typically very brief. Understanding them in general requires looking at the spells which implement them.

Read up for one of many examples

@"ArM5 p.132 box [i

Muto Corpus Guidelines[/i]"]Level 10: Turn a human into a land animal (with an Animal requisite).

, and compare it to

@"ArM5 p.131 [i

Curse of Circe[/i]"]Turn a person into a pig.

If there were no example spell, you could not conclude from the guideline the scope of application of a single spell.

The same holds for

@"ArM5 p.160 box [i

Perdo Vim Guidelines[/i]"]General: Reduce a target’s Might Score by the level of the spell + 10, as long as the spell penetrates the creature’s resistance.

Look up also

@"LoH p.14 [i

Confluence of the Realms[/i] (Minor, Hermetic)"]Many Vim spells are designed to affect a given realm, and that realm is a fixed part of the laboratory text. A maga cannot use a laboratory text for the Demon’s Eternal Oblivion spell to re-create the same effect targeting creatures of the Magic Realm.

Cheers

[GribbletheMunchkin]

Cheers all. I had always assumed that realm specific was required but couldn't find a reference.