So how big is a lightening bolt?

[maine75man]

@Tugdual

@Portianitor

@maine75man

Show me, I've quoted the rules that support my argument. What text are you referring to. What part of the Form description points away from my interpretation...

I wrote out specifically from the book the exact words written that state a Individual is a single, unus, una, unum, ONE lightening bolt. Then when adding a group modifier for target, you get ten lightening bolts. Ten. Group is ten times the Individual.

"A base Group contains about as much mass as ten standard Individuals of the Form. This can be split up in any way desired, ..."

Ah yes but then that quote continues.

..., so it could be two Individuals, each five times the size standard size, or ten Individuals of standard size, or ten thousand Individuals, each one thousandth of standard size. Every five levels added multiplies the size affected by a factor of ten.

The thing you don't seem to understand is that the standard size is the base Individual listed for every form. Please read the Targets and Sizes sidebar on page 113 carefully and you will see the terms are used synonymously. Moreover the terms are synonymous in every spell I can find if you do the math. Including the errata'd Curse of the Ravenous Swarm. So no a group is ten times the base individual not just ten times a Individual But if you won't take my word for it, here from another discussion. [url]Card & Board Games ARCHIVE & LINKS]

@David Chart

The size of the base Individual applies to all uses of a Form, so an elephant needs a size modifier, and so might a dragon's hide. Similarly, Group is multiple items with a mass no larger than ten times a base Individual.

@ladyphoenix

Maine75man,
If you want for your saga to rule it otherwise, you can but the collective wisdom on this board is that 1 lightning bolt is one individual for Auram and a group aurum spell is 10 lightning bolts and the texts of the book pretty much supports that. So far I have seen postings saying that from many of the primary experts on this board.
I suspect it is time to close the thread since most people won't sway MAine75man from his view and the rest of us all have the opposing one.

Sorry to quote the line editor if thats not kosher but you did pull the expert card. Some times the prevailing wisdom is not true. ONE lightning bolt IS one Individual for Auram but it is not a base individual for auram. It ISN'T the same thing. Some forms list multiple base Individuals but auram is not one of them. As always your saga your choice but the rules support my interpretation and so do those that write them. So I ask again how big is a lightening bolt because it is important.