-2 AV for Combat Stunts
I've looked through the forums quite a bit and there seems to be some confusion to -2 AV Penalty for Stunts in combat. The book clearly states that anything that you would get the same result as "I kick him and he goes down" shouldn't be at -2 AV. So for eg.
"I leap of the top of the cabinet, spinning three times in the air and kick the mook right in the chops with my wife's high heels I borrowed for "that party"
would be taking out one Mook and thus shouldn't get a -2 AV penalty right?
However, if I were trying to blind the mook/take his gun etc then it would, likewise if I were trying to take out more than one mook then I would get a -2, -3 or -4 AV depending on the number of mooks I were attempting to overcome or perhaps the difficulty on what I was trying to accomplish.
Right, that's how I'm seeing it. If we're happy with that then onto the next one!
Confusion about Combat Stunts
If I were jumping from the top of a cable car to another one several meters away (without the use of a Fu schtick) in a non-combat situation then it would be an x amount of difficulty on a Martial Arts check.
Lets call it 18 for the sake of argument. I have MA 16 I roll a positive 5 and a negative 1 for a AV of 19 and with my Outcome of 1 I make it well enough.
However, if I were attempting the same action with the end result of putting my "flying kick of doom" into the mouth of a Mook who had climbed on the top of the opposing cable car then I would say - "well yes, it's a stunt in combat" (as I'm trying to jump from one cable car to another, not just hit a mook) rather than just taking out one mook, and so I would have to take a -2 to my AV.
Say though that I rolled this time: MA 16 I roll a positive 5 and a negative 1 and - 2 AV for the stunt = 17. This would be more than enough to wipe out a Mook and probably I'd be looking up damage for a named character too. However, based on the stunt as previously exampled in a non combat situation, an AV of 17 wouldn't be enough to make it from one cable car to the other.
So the question is: do I (a) make it and hit the mook yet still fall to my doom, (b) fail to reach the car and fall to my doom, or (c) make it, hit the mook who falls to his doom and stand there in the wind looking pretty cool and smug?
Finally, if the answer is (c) make it, hit the mook who falls to his doom and stand there in the wind...etc - then if we change the example slightly to a Gun Bunny leaps from one car to the other shooting the mook... can he only get there if he's shooting a mook in combat, because out of combat he doesn't have a MA AV to attempt a non-combat stunt. Unless I guess he shoots at the clouds whilst jumping...