The council chamber

[silveroak]

news of 1133: Lothair III is crowned Holy Roman Emporer in Rome, though access is severely restricted as Anacletus still holds Rome and Innocent is the claimant to Pope who is crowning Lothair. Lothair declines to lend military aid to Innocent's supporters in Italy at this time as the forces with him are too small to be of much effect, since he had to leave the majority of his forces in the Rhine to support his power base there.

[leo]

@silveroak

Gentle casting mastery allows the spell to not warp additional targets- a spell with target group may be designed so that a specific group will not be warped, but changing the composition of that group in any way will void that precaution. There are rumors that those with hermetic architure have designed rooms that they could designate as being free of warping as a target, other methods to avoid warping would require some degree of reseacrh or expirimentation.

Thanks for the reply silveroak.

[leo]

[strike][/strike]Trying to recap the council situation for 1132. We have some pending affairs sodales!

1133 [strike]1132[/strike] - COUNCIL MOTIONS

1. The ritual "Hero's Majesty" commissioned by Danaë for 1134 - Accept Danaë's intermediation, for this time at least, and renounce to make a counteroffer of vis from covenant's stocks. -> PASSED
   YES: Oliverius and Anna (it seems to me that, after the initial complains, they have changed their mind, right?), Danaë, Andros, Gloriana
   NO: Aurthor (this will not stop him to participate in the Danaë fundraising )
   ABSTAIN:

2. Buy two tractati on mastery of "Aegis of the Hearth" ritual - Authorizing the expense of four pawns of vis (2 pawns of vis for each tractatus of Q11 or higher) -> PASSED
   YES: Aurthor, Andros, Gloriana, Anna, Oliverius
   NO:
   ABSTAIN: Danaë

[silveroak]

I was under the impression that 2) was done in 1133 and will be purchased (assuming the council authorizes it) in 1134.
On that note, the redcaps will probably make an offer to acquire a more significant text as well... a level 3 summae on Aegis of the hearth. however the mastery texts are different depending on the level of the aegis: the level 3 summae is only available for levels 20 and 25.

[Ignes.Festivus]

@leo

Trying to recap the council situation for 1132. We have some pending affairs sodales!

1132 - COUNCIL MOTIONS

1. The ritual "Hero's Majesty" commissioned by Danaë for 1133 - Accept Danaë's intermediation, for this time at least, and renounce to make a counteroffer of vis from covenant's stocks.
   YES: Oliverius and Anna (it seems to me that, after the initial complains, they have changed their mind, right?)
   NO: Aurthor (this will not stop him to participate in the Danaë fundraising )
   ABSTAIN:

2. Buy two tractati on mastery of "Aegis of the Hearth" ritual - Authorizing the expense of four pawns of vis (2 pawns of vis for each tractatus of Q11 or higher)
   YES: Aurthor
   NO:
   ABSTAIN:

Andros approves of 2), as does Gloriana, although I did not know mastery tomes were available for purchase. Danaë will not object.

For 1), Gloriana is committed to the agreement with Danaë, but beaming with pleasure that her talents could be in demand. Andros finds the costs bearable, although he supports Oliverius's suggestion to, in the future, have the Council pay directly any Magi for such projects that benefit the entire Praesidium. Danaë, no surprise, supports her own position.

[leo]

Hi silveroak

@silveroak

I was under the impression that 2) was done in 1133 and will be purchased (assuming the council authorizes it) in 1134.

Yes, I continue to confuse the annual progression, I refer to the council motions of 1133, the purchase would be made during the following year.

@silveroak

On that note, the redcaps will probably make an offer to acquire a more significant text as well... a level 3 summae on Aegis of the hearth. however the mastery texts are different depending on the level of the aegis: the level 3 summae is only available for levels 20 and 25.

So no tractatii available... and what would be the cost of the summa for the 25th level version?

@Ignes.Festivus

Andros approves of 2), as does Gloriana, although I did not know mastery tomes were available for purchase. Danaë will not object.

Hi Ignes.Festivus, regarding the purchase of books I found this in the library thread:

@silveroak

Mundane books are stated to be 1 pound of silver. That is really upper end cost, if you feel the need to negotiate I can calculate the lower end and a merchant roll can determine where in the middle you reach. However given the fact that all tractatus take 1 season to copy, the quality will have little relevance.

Hermetic tractatus cost 2 pawns of vis if it is quality 11 or higher, and 1 pawn if it is under 11- unless it is under 6 in which case someone is likely to throw it in is part of another deal.

Infernal lore can be purchased with silver.

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[Quite_Possibly_a_Cat]

Anna approves of both.

[silveroak]

The tractatus can be found, I was simply discussing their additional offer. You have a lot of vis of account and they are eager for your business, especially on books that they have publication rights to.

[raccoonmask]

@leo

[strike][/strike]Trying to recap the council situation for 1132. We have some pending affairs sodales!

1133 [strike]1132[/strike] - COUNCIL MOTIONS

1. The ritual "Hero's Majesty" commissioned by Danaë for 1134 - Accept Danaë's intermediation, for this time at least, and renounce to make a counteroffer of vis from covenant's stocks. -> PASSED
   YES: Oliverius and Anna (it seems to me that, after the initial complains, they have changed their mind, right?), Danaë, Andros, Gloriana
   NO: Aurthor (this will not stop him to participate in the Danaë fundraising )
   ABSTAIN:

2. Buy two tractati on mastery of "Aegis of the Hearth" ritual - Authorizing the expense of four pawns of vis (2 pawns of vis for each tractatus of Q11 or higher)
   YES: Aurthor
   NO:
   ABSTAIN:

Oliverius is in support of (1). Despite his grumbly claims he was never really upset at Danae, and instead just concerned with keeping everything above board. He doesn't want to see the council start being suspicious of each other; He enjoys enough of that when corresponding with his House.
Oliverius also is in support of (2), however he wants to know what level of the Aegis ritual we will be acquiring tractati for, so that we can use it to best effect.

[leo]

@silveroak

On that note, the redcaps will probably make an offer to acquire a more significant text as well... a level 3 summae on Aegis of the hearth. however the mastery texts are different depending on the level of the aegis: the level 3 summae is only available for levels 20 and 25.

Hi Ignes.Festivus,

since the principal beneficiary will be Gloriana, at least in the short time, before closing the deal Aurthor asks if the summa offered by the mercere house is suitable for our pourposes.

OCC: In other words, is Gloriana going to learn a 25th level of the Aegis of the Hearth? Or do you have in mind an higher magnitudo? In the second case the summa would not be so useful.

[Ignes.Festivus]

@leo

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Hi Ignes.Festivus,

since the principal beneficiary will be Gloriana, at least in the short time, before closing the deal Aurthor asks if the summa offered by the mercere house is suitable for our pourposes.

OCC: In other words, is Gloriana going to learn a 25th level of the Aegis of the Hearth? Or do you have in mind an higher magnitudo? In the second case the summa would not be so useful.

Hi leo, Gloriana will be able to learn both versions the season she invents the spell. Her casting total for 1136 is likely to be: ReVi 30 + 5 Sta + 6 Aura + 11 AL/Phil + 2-3 Mastery + 2 vigorous gestures/shouty voice + maybe obtain 2 small props? 2 + roll, so 61-62 with roll, with an additional + 3 Penetration skill, +3 Penetration mastery, so she could learn the 30th level version and cast it with around 30 penetration? Evandrus had Adaptive Mastery for this, so Gloriana will initially choose that one and Penetration Mastery. Rebuttal for third, maybe.

[raccoonmask]

@raccoonmask

Oliverius is in support of (1). Despite his grumbly claims he was never really upset at Danae, and instead just concerned with keeping everything above board. He doesn't want to see the council start being suspicious of each other; He enjoys enough of that when corresponding with his House.
Oliverius also is in support of (2), however he wants to know what level of the Aegis ritual we will be acquiring tractati for, so that we can use it to best effect.

Also, with his apprentice coming along nicely, Oliverius will mention that once he has his gauntlet passed (as he assumes Arduino will succeed), he would hope to speak to various members of council and autocracy of the Covenant to see if they can find any additional tasks that require the skilled work of a Verditius to enhance the covenants success and stability. He will be working extensively on a project for some Mercere, but would not want to forgo his duties as a member of the covenant in his distraction. He WILL be distracting himself. SO many ideas.

[leo]

@Ignes.Festivus

Hi leo, Gloriana will be able to learn both versions the season she invents the spell. Her casting total for 1136 is likely to be: ReVi 30 + 5 Sta + 6 Aura + 11 AL/Phil + 2-3 Mastery + 2 vigorous gestures/shouty voice

@raccoonmask

Oliverius also is in support of (2), however he wants to know what level of the Aegis ritual we will be acquiring tractati for, so that we can use it to best effect.

House mercere will provide two tractati on Aegis of the Hearth of level 30, for a total cost of 4 vis of account. Their quality are 14 and a 12, for someone with the book learner virtue it is enough to bring the mastery score to 3 in two seasons.

An Aegis of 30th level is the higher version that will be learned by Gloriana, so it is what are we looking for at the moment.

Aurthor likely will ask the council to buy the summa on the 25th level version (L3 Q12) with an another motion.

[Ignes.Festivus]

The ritual: The Hero's Majesty.

Who will participate? Andros pays 2 Me/2 Faerie Me to Danaë to include both himself and Neleos; Danaë has to pay Gloriana 9 Me + the cost of the Rituals, but the motion has passed, so all coven folk who wish to attend (up to the same number as for the communication ritual) may do so (and deal with the subsequent Warping) , and the Covenant will pay the cost of the Rituals themselves (6 Creo/Me per casting). Lady A is granted free participation for her lab help in previous iterations, and Sandor pays Danaë 4 Co pawns he has earned in adventures to participate twice.

To reduce the targets of the spell in size is MuCo 25, she casts this ceremonially, but needs to spend fatigue: (MuCo 38 + Sta 5+ 6 Aura + 9 AL + 5 props + ......)/2> 25?

1st time: The Hero's Majesty [CrMe 60, +67] Ritual, ....
2nd time: The Hero's Majesty [CrMe 60, +67] Ritual, ....

Edit, ok, let's roll! MuCo Spont so that a great number of people fit:
_: 1D10 = [9] = 9 = 36, needed 25, done.

•1st time: The Hero's Majesty [CrMe 60, +67] Ritual, .... _: 1D10 = [6] = 6 = 73, 13 Penetration for those familiars/Magic beings

•2nd time: The Hero's Majesty [CrMe 60, +67] Ritual, .... _: 1D10 = [5] = 5, 12 Penetration for those familiars/Magic Beings

[Quite_Possibly_a_Cat]

Anna can scrape together enough for herself, Bravery and Blossom. 4 Creo Vis, 1 Me Vis and 1 Faerie Creo Vis. The Faerie Creo Vis is something Blossom had floating around.

[silveroak]

covenfolk interested will be the weavers and those between the ages of 12 and 25 at the time of the ritual.

[leo]

@Ignes.Festivus

The ritual: The Hero's Majesty.

Who will participate?

Aurthor will pay for himself with 4 pawns of Mentem vis to partecipate in both castings.

[raccoonmask]

Mercurio is interested. Oliverius is not, but will fund his apprentice, should Arduino desire.
Neleos will participate at Andros' suggestion/urging/demand.

[leo]

@raccoonmask

Oliverius is not, but will fund his apprentice, should Arduino desire.

Arduino thanks his master for his generosity but he is not interested too.

Ignes.Festivus is the familiar comprised in the two pawns of vis for ritual casting paid by a magus?

[Ignes.Festivus]

@leo

@raccoonmask

Oliverius is not, but will fund his apprentice, should Arduino desire.

Arduino thanks his master for his generosity but he is not interested too.

Ignes.Festivus is the familiar comprised in the two pawns of vis for ritual casting paid by a magus?

Hi leo! Sure, that seems fair.