Richelle ex Bonisagus (A visiting mentem expert with reputation for her manipulations of mundane minds subtlely) suggests using some CrMe to imbue the apprentice and grog with strong honesty and devotion to justice and urge to talk. "We can't help it if they talk on their own because it is their personality to do so for the moment." She suggests the corpse be examined for MuCo traces as well as the apprentice and ifthe parma does not drop voluntarily, it be forced down.
As for punishment, if the apprentice really is the apprentice and really did commit the crime, a Tytalus will step forward to have the code administered to her as a member of the order as she has just past the Tytalus house gauntlet. The prior crime was not committed by one sworn to the code so is no crime at all.
Um, these are some of the most active threads going on right now, and, if I may, you have writers basically sharing free stuff in mvery collaborative and open environment. These are not for play, per se, and there is a lot to be discussed.
Hiya, yes I was concerned about that when we first discussed the project (see page 1). I really don't want to move them to a PBP subfora, because the whole point is they are not play by post games, but actually an often technical discussion of Hermetic Law and the rules issues. The fact people respond in character is wonderful, and to my mind really adds to them, and makes them worth reading though. I'm hoping they are of direct utility in peoples games, but I guess that depends on whether you run Tribunals very often or not. I certainly find Tribunals one of the harder aspects of Ars to storyguide.
Last night the threads 2-5 were pushed up the forum by my closing them, so they will now drop off the page as we have finished discussing them. I'll be closing Case 6 tonight. Given that the oldest posts currently on page 1 of the forum are from a week ago (November 6th) and that there seems to be considerable interest in them (the forum seems busier than normal but perhaps I'm just imagining that) I don't think it is too big a problem.
Now I could post them on my personal blog - the only problem with that is people will have to register to post comments, and they will lose the whole point of being readily available material easily accessed by anyone interested in Ars. I had come up with an idea for a December variant (and no I'm not going to do this every month) - an Advent Calendar: I was going to solicit from my fellow Ars Authors an NPC fully statted, short scenario idea, saga arc, magic item description, case for Tribunal, Ars fiction, vis sources, etc, etc, and try to do one very day for December as a free gift, perhaps linked to an Ars Magica advent calendar graphic. This would differ from this project in that the authors would vary, as would the content. However given the concerns I'll put the project on hold and maybe do it next year -- also most of the writers are probably very busy right now with other projects. I did like the idea though of "opening" the advent calendar each day to see who and what was up next
Anyway for the moment I'll knock the Tribunal Cases series on the head on the 15th - I invited Ezzelino to contribute tonight's case, and Matt Ryan as an expert on Hermetic Law (he wrote the Bonisagus chapter of True Lineages as I recall) to do the 15th. That means there will only be 15 cases not 30 as advertised originally, but it will prevent the idea from becoming the monster that ate the forum.
I also vote for them rto remain in the main forum. They are clearly labelled and so can be avoided if you do not want to read them. For me they are great and I am getting both ideas AND MAGI PERSONALITIES for the people in our incoming saga. That is always cool I wiill press for a general link post to be put at the top, like the SR one once the project closes down.
cj.23 honoured me by asking me to post: Case 14: The Case (and Counter-Case) of the Contested Copy: [url=https://forum.atlas-games.com/t/case-14-the-case-and-counter-case-of-the-contested-copy/7431/1]
I may be biased , but I really like the Hermetic Cases. I'd like for the whole series of 30 to be completed! I think they are extremely good for getting an idea of the diversity of views that can come up during a real Tribunal. It's very hard to get this diversity when a single storyguide or author dictates the responses of the whole Tribunal (save possibly for the PCs).
As was stated by other posters, I do not think they should be moved to Play By Post: even if many posters post in character, it's really a discussion of the technical points of Hermetic Law.
The light fitting has broken in my room so I'm typing in the dark, so I'll explain tomorrow. It might be interesting to show what magical traces the quaesitor's found in this case, given they were there within minutes of the crime as I recall?
My internet connection has been down all day, but back up now. As the only person voting for me to stop was Darkwing knowing I wanted a break from it I guess I'll carry on, and hopefully some of the old closed cases will drop off the forum as new threads appear. Still the oldest threads on the forum last week (non-case related) were over a week old so it's not really that big an issue. Case 16 is coming today -- and I'm delighted to say it is one I managed to commission for my project by well known Ars Magica author Matt Ryan. Looking forward to it!
"Well known?" Oh brother, stop puffing me up. For the record, I owe CJ much more than a few rough paragraphs here and there. He truly is a gentleman and gracious host. I'll never forget driving in Wales with CJ silently gripping the gunwales as I careened 'round hedges and stone walls, never once uttering a cry despite his look of terror.
Just in case anyone was wondering, some unexpected work and my being away a lot has meant I have fallen behind. I think this is for the best, as it has allowed the older cases to drop off the forum, and I will post again with a new case tomorrow. My plan is still to do 30 cases, but they will be spaced over the next month or so, to allow me to give them the attention they deserve. Apologies for the unexpected silence though - but I have been very busy with Ars related projects I hope many of you will enjoy in time, not least finalising plans for Grand Tribunal 2013.
I wouldn't worry too much, he's been driving with me for over a decade now.
(Curiously, I still can't get him to be quiet and listen to the music in the car, maybe the answer is to drive even faster...)
For the Psyche/Mentem experts, an interesting observation: it only took a year to get cj to put his seatbelt on the instant he got in the car, before he started lighting up. It used to be the other way around...
(who helped out with the police pursuit driving course, and succeeded in evading them, something that is not meant to happen.)