1222-1227 OOC

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

@amul

@jebrick

ahhh. We have a teacher of ancient languages. Renaud made the effort to go to Paris and recruit a teacher of ancient Greek. It is how Korvin, Jacques and Isen learned it and read the fabulous book of Rego.

We actually have TWO language instructors, I believe:
Otto (Com +2, Teaching 6, Artes Liberales 5, French 5, Latin 5, Philosophiae 5 – 13 bps), and
Unnamed linguist (Com +3, Teaching 6, Latin, Arabic, Welsh, other languages at 6 – 15 bps)

I nominally color-texted the Unnamed Linguist as also being Welsh, and hanging out with Clan Daffyd, but that's up for ret'con, should anyone care to. I did this because, at the time, I was bored and thought of it. I believe that it was actual Jebrick who paid points for the guy, so rightfully, he can come up with whatever background he wants for the guy.

As long as we have a way for Fiona to learn ancient (Hermetic) Greek, that's the main thing I'm trying to get at, here.

[amul]

Yep. Source Quality 18/15 with other students. Marked in Green background on the Magi Planner, so you can easily tell whether you're getting 15 or 18.

[amul]

@jebrick

Are you familiar with our Houses your Excellency?...And lastly we have Viscaria. She is an expert in stone and earth who is helping us prepare and strengthen the grounds. Her house is Verditus.

Making mischief for myself under the heading of "it's not a flaw if it never comes up" : I would imagine that it'd be extremely easy for Korvin to assume that Viscaria would drool at the chance to work on building a cathedral or some such grand project...unless he happened to notice Viscaria's extreme reaction to Theofil's visit and put two and two together. The Church, after all, has the most exciting architecture projects out of anybody around.

[amul]

So, Fiona comes back with:

• friendly contact with a Durenmar Lore 7 Librarian
• Threading the Hermetic Needle, a summa on Finesse (L6, Q12). Not as well written as Fiona would have liked, but she was several pages in before she realized that, and decided to plow on.
• Prometheus's Gift: Blessing or Curse?, a summa on Ignem (L20, Q10).
• Anima et Eius Natura, a summa on Mentem (L18, Q12).
• Magus Invictus, a summa on Parma Magica (L4, Q17).
• Building Bridges: Understanding Our Outsize Brethren, L6, Q11

...That's 54 pawns. 65, if we want to give him a 20% tip

@In My Mother's Footsteps

He hands her a rather large book. It's beautifully bound and seems almost weightless. The cover has an insert that appears blank. When Viscaria runs her hands over the insert the name of the title can be read, Deconstructing Morpheus: Living Twice, At Once. It's a clarified tome on Finesse (L6 Q13), that will grant a specialization in Mentem. If Viscaria reads it, she can retain her existing specialization specialization, or retain her own.

Shall we make the book at Lapis Crudis the same book that Fiona happened to quickly copy?

JL, can we add these to our Library now?

[amul]

@gerg

@amul

There's a knock on Tranquillina's sanctum door (where is it, by the way?).

Good question. "In the mansion on the regio side" is, I believe, both accurate and the sum total of what I know about the possibilities. (Mansion map anywhere, perchance?)

Closest we've got is the painting on the Home page of the wiki.

@amul

She beams as she says this last sentence, and triumphantly holds out an empty hand. After a second she turns to face the trunk and repeats herself. "I said I got her a present. Present. Give. Me. The. Wrapped. Object."

Sounds like you're talking to Siri on an iPhone :mrgreen:
This is awesome by the way.
I think I'm picturing Viscaria as a purple-haired Kristin Chenoweth now.

Oh, gods. That is an image that is going to stick! I hadn't really figured out what she looks like after we aged her up for the campaign. Now I'm going to spend days looking for pictures of Kristin Chenoweth in a toga.

[hr][/hr]

Still seeking input from people on the availability of these lab texts. Jebrick, due to my flagrant abuse of the color-coding, you accidentally only gave an opinion on the spells I no longer need/am looking for.

Stone Cutter (ReTe15)

@gerg

Quite likely to exist and be available.

Enchanted Porter (ReTe15)

@gerg

Extremely likely to exist and be available.

Shape The Supporting Pillar (ReTe 3 +1 Stone, +1 Touch, +5 50 uses/day = ReTe10)
[i]Lamp Lighters (base 3 +1 touch +2 ring +10 unlimited = CrIg20)
Hearth-Starters (base 4 +1 touch +2 ring +10 unlimited = CrIg25)

@gerg

To me, these three effects seem likely to be sponted by magi rather than installed into items. I'd go with rare or hard to access.

Foundation Stones for bridges (based on HProj 41, "Flying Buttress")

@gerg

I don't have HProj, but the more similar it is to Flying Buttress, the more likely it would be around for us.

(would other CrTe building spells be available?)

@gerg

Hmmm, Conjuring the Mystic Tower is pretty standard. Maybe a smallish chance of finding something here.

61 Levels of ReTe (mostly Craft) spells

@gerg

Should be lots of miscellaneous crafting spells about (maybe less so for sand/dirt).

[strike]46[/strike] 50 Levels of MuVi spells, including Wizards Communion 30

@gerg

Anything from the core rulebook should be plentiful. At first I thought about magical parrying in combat, but it seems hard to affect significant opposing spells with only MuVi [strike]15[/strike]20. What about one of the possible Wizard's Boosts, for one's own spells? Boosting Duration, perhaps?

Edit: Rechecked my math and made sure I was using the values for the season I was doing it in. MuVi 20 is only nominally more useful than MuVi 15 -- Sorcerer's Fork at Voice?

A Spell to make and install a door Cr(Re)He 20(hopefully unnecessary thanks to the CrTe 40 version of the spell)
Furnishing the Empty Room CrHe 15 - possibly covered by Rego Crafting

@jebrick

Both of these would exist somewhere. Redcaps would have to find them for us then we need to negotiate. Perhaps not common but not unlikely.

sewage and refuse management
Suggested: An Efficient System of Composting, ReCo(An)(He) 60
(PeCo/An/He to destroy or Re to transport to a composting area)

@jebrick

If this existed it would be be in Tribunal archives. Someone might have one for their Covenant that would have to be expanded for more people/larger area. But I would think this is not the first time at a tribunal that this has come up.

[gerg]

If we're looking for ideas for Road to Bibracte, I'm tempted to suggest a faerie encounter. Faeries are drawn to roads, to life-changing events, to boundaries (certainly some will be crossed on this trip), and in my mind to people drinking wine on the road. :mrgreen:

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

@Marko Markoko

I'm a Yank, so Flanders and Burgundy are like Oz and Mordor. I have no idea what road.

One does not simply take a Mercere's Portal into Mordor.

[amul]

@jebrick

Dragons Rest, In Flanders and thus near NM, is the old Mercere house. It will have a portal to Fundin ( the new Mercere house) that is just 2 weeks travel from Mons Electi.

Where is this info? Where is Fundin?

While I'm on the subject, do we want to update the map to include the portals? There's this nifty little line-drawing tool I could use, if I had the info to work with. Or we could just use a different pin-icon to indicate locations with portals.

[Jonathan.Link]

Probably some DYAC. Cunfin.

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ulrich doesn't really know just what happened to Apollodorus, does he? He knows that Apollodorus was murdered, but as best as I can recall, he doesn't know who Apollodorus used to be, or just who killed him, or why, or that the other magi of Mons Electi have a hard time trusting Guernicus and why? Nothing regarding the "big picture", right?

[amul]

casts a spontaneous version of Sure-Footedness of the Crag-Leaper upon herself, turning her feet into the hooves of mountain goats. ((MoH, page 85.

You know, I OWN Magi of Hermes, and I still spend all sorts of time getting surprised by people telling me what's in that book. I'm wondering if maybe that's because I bought it as a pdf from e23, instead of hardcover.

I'm thinking about picking up Grogs and Apprentices, and I was going to do them as pdfs, but seeing how easily I'm missing stuff from MoH....

[gerg]

I've finally decided to go through MoH and take notes on the cool spells, because I will forget them otherwise. Hell, I forget spells from the core book that Tranquillina actually knows formulaically!

[gerg]

@amul

As a friend of mine says, "Learn to count the green lights."

Four!

[Jonathan.Link]

@Peregrine_Bjornaer

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ulrich doesn't really know just what happened to Apollodorus, does he? He knows that Apollodorus was murdered, but as best as I can recall, he doesn't know who Apollodorus used to be, or just who killed him, or why, or that the other magi of Mons Electi have a hard time trusting Guernicus and why? Nothing regarding the "big picture", right?

No, I think he was more or less excluded from the meeting, or invited in later.

[amul]

He was too busy trying to hookup with Theraphosa, IIRC.

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

@amul

He was too busy trying to hookup with Theraphosa, IIRC.

And he would'a gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for that meddling Tremere.

@gerg

Tranquillina opens her mouth, but then shuts it after a moment when nothing intelligent threatens to emerge.

When you start losing arguments with your recycled dinner, it's time to stop drinking.

[gerg]

I just looked at the Workshops sheet that amul made, and I had a few (possibly dumb) questions.

• Putting the -36 build points in specific seasons is just a way to make the spreadsheet come out the way you want, not anything from the mechanics, right?
• During seasons marked "Travel" and "Seek assistants", Rashid is getting XP somewhere, right? - and you're just not recording it on the workshop sheet?
• My understanding of the French house rule was that characters get this 4 XP only if they choose Exposure as their season's advancement method, not every season. Am I wrong about this? (or perhaps this question and the last one answer each other)

While I'm thinking about it: how many XP per year do grogs get in our saga?

[amul]

@gerg

I just looked at the Workshops sheet that amul made, and I had a few (possibly dumb) questions.

• Putting the -36 build points in specific seasons is just a way to make the spreadsheet come out the way you want, not anything from the mechanics, right? Right.
• During seasons marked "Travel" and "Seek assistants", Rashid is getting XP somewhere, right? - and you're just not recording it on the workshop sheet? Yeah, probably. I didn't get that far. Was just interested in the spreadsheet.
• My understanding of the French house rule was that characters get this 4 XP only if they choose Exposure as their season's advancement method, not every season. Am I wrong about this? (or perhaps this question and the last one answer each other)
  IIRC, you can take them any season you're not getting another kind of Exposure XP, including seasons you normally wouldn't. I think that's because JL doesn't want to deal with language barriers, and so it is unreasonably easy.
  While I'm thinking about it: how many XP per year do grogs get in our saga? 30/year

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

@gerg

My understanding of the French house rule was that characters get this 4 XP only if they choose Exposure as their season's advancement method, not every season. Am I wrong about this? (or perhaps this question and the last one answer each other)

I've been giving Fiona the 4 points in French for every season that she doesn't have Exposure in some other field. For example, when she's studying, she's been taking 4xp Exposure in French as well as the xp for the Source Quality of the tome in question. When she's been inventing spells, working in the lab, or teaching, she's been taking "normal" exposure (e.g. in Corpus, teaching, or magic theory).

@gerg

While I'm thinking about it: how many XP per year do grogs get in our saga?

30 xp per year plus any adventure experience, for grogs and companions both.

[gerg]

I guess then the question is: for characters who work in Workshops, do they follow the 30xp/year saga rule, or do everything one season at a time....