ArM5: Frozen Castle of Cold Hearts (5-8)

[Pralix]

I think this game would benefit from a game forum because we're having several topics in one place, despite bitter's commendable efforts to keep order.

[Kareruren]

+1

[Ovarwa]

@callen

Yes, decent at LR's, especially if you're already dead.

I ran into an odd thing. Under grave hounds it says dead things don't tire so grave hounds have no Fatigue levels. But other corpses have them. Probably needs an erratum. Also, why no Perception?

If anyone's looking up Ovarwa's comment, look for "Faerie Sympathy," not "Faerie Correspondence." I'm planning on Strong Faerie Blood (God: Hades). I figured "corpses" and "ghosts" are fitting, planning on taking the former. Not useful a lot of the time, but there are some spots. And, Ovarwa, that experimentation thing is a house rule/interpretation. I don't think it's an unreasonable one, but I would not assume it's being used here.

grin Eternal zombie ftw.

I thought I saw explicitly the other day in RoP:F, that you have the option to add FS (thanks for catching my incorrect FC!) to MT in a lab total but then have to experiment. Maybe I'm missing something?

[Ovarwa]

@Kareruren

Do we have room for one more bjornaer, my significant others interested

Ooh, a Bjornaer and a Shapeshifter. Excellent!

[Ovarwa]

@Kareruren

Did a bit of back reading on peoples views for tribunal and excluding ones that actively got people who dont favor them...the top three look like. Folks who actively do not care for tribunals removes Levant and Thebes. Should we do a poll for the top 3, or debate why we should have these?

Greater Alps (central location, holds criamon, jerbiton domus magi, likely enemies, church and "order of odin")
Iberia (contested area holding alot of religious tension and influx between Christianity and the islamic moors, theres the viziers "order of suleiman" actively fighting with the flambeau, [for god the order and house flambeau],
Novogrod (The principle holding of house tremere, this area is both expansionist and has such issues as the mongols, stretches far enough into the danelands to also bump the "order of odin" and has an interesting religious conflicts for its time.

Hmm. Order of Odin not likely in GA; more likely Rhine and Novgorod.

Tremere owns Transylvania; Novgorod is pretty empty, Hermetically.

[Ovarwa]

@callen

@Bitter

-I also have a question : do you take into account specialty in MT and magical focus for maximum lvl of spells at creation ?

It should. The specialty counts as part of the MT score when the specialty applies. So, if you have a specialty in Ignem and you do Int+MT+3+Tech+Ignem, the MT value is one greater than it would otherwise be. Not that we couldn't, but I'm pretty sure it would be a house rule to not count it.

+1

[Kareruren]

excuse me on the novogrod bit...i had a brain fart.

As for the GAlps...they can extend...something, humpy hump problems! I got nothing there then

[Never-Ending_Winter]

Of course Puissant MT and Foci apply to initial known spells. I'm not a monster.

Personal Vis Source annually...? Am I really even supposed to tell you that? Well, whatever. It'll be either 3 or 5 depending on how literally I take the wording, most likely 5.

Gee, I thought you guys would come to some kind of magical concensus on the Tribunal thing. I almost want to leave it undefined because I don't want to constrain myself. Hm... Keep yelling at each other, maybe it'll click in my head soon.

Undead don't get tired as far as I'm aware. As for Perception... It's explained in RoP:M, but I'm too at-work to check right now.

Go ahead if you want, Kareruren. Though that would put as at nine players, so I'll either turn them down or cut somebody else depending on my opinion of them.

[Kareruren]

yaaaay. Well its good to know what your virtue will pan out. my SO wil put up some stuff for her concept likely in a lil bit.

So...how do people feel about posting their one true favorite for tribunal and we go with majority rules?

[Pralix]

1. Alps
2. Novgorod
3. whatever the others want

[Kareruren]

1. Iberia
2. Novograd

[Cannonball]

Novograd or the Alps here.

[Ovarwa]

1. Novgorod
2. Any of Rhine, Levant, Normandy, Hibernia, Thebes, Transylvania... I have current edition books for these.

(Levant would be #1, except I'm the only one who likes the idea, so Novgorod is better imo)

[Bitter]

@Never-Ending Winter

Of course Puissant MT and Foci apply to initial known spells. I'm not a monster.

I guess I am a monster then I don't apply foci.

Gee, I thought you guys would come to some kind of magical concensus on the Tribunal thing. I almost want to leave it undefined because I don't want to constrain myself. Hm... Keep yelling at each other, maybe it'll click in my head soon.

Well, now that we know you expect us to decide we can make a vote or something as proposed by kareruren. Reaching a decision without this information would have been quite tactless IMHO.

I already gave my favorite tribunals but here they are again :

1. Thebes
2. Iberia
3. Greater Alps.

Go ahead if you want, Kareruren. Though that would put as at nine players, so I'll either turn them down or cut somebody else depending on my opinion of them.

Now you're the monster too

[Jonathan.Link]

@Bitter

@Never-Ending Winter

Of course Puissant MT and Foci apply to initial known spells. I'm not a monster.

I guess I am a monster then I don't apply foci.

I asked David Chart about this omission in learning spells when it came up in a game I was involved in. My original question was about allowing the focus in learning the initial spells (it certainly applies to casting totals, so it not applying to lab totals is...odd. [quote="David Chart"]

@Jonathan.Link

My sense is that this is incorrect, and should be corrected to be Lab
Total, since the intent of including requisites is represented in the lab
total, it means that the focus never applies to the lab total when
inventing spells before play begins.

I’ll add a small clarification to state that this is meant to be a Lab Total. We can’t just say that, because people might not know what a Lab Total is at this point in learning the game.
[/quote]

[Never-Ending_Winter]

@Bitter

I guess I am a monster then I don't apply foci.

You... Vile beast...

Well, now that we know you expect us to decide we can make a vote or something as proposed by kareruren. Reaching a decision without this information would have been quite tactless IMHO.

Some difference it makes. Honestly, I'm letting you guys pick because aside from Transylvania or Stonehenge I wasn't intending to let the Tribunal affect the saga too much. All I really care about is you guys being near the Church; everything else can either be explained with "magic did it" or "well this is one of the weirder parts of the Tribunal so deal with it."

Go ahead if you want, Kareruren. Though that would put as at nine players, so I'll either turn them down or cut somebody else depending on my opinion of them.

Now you're the monster too

Oh fine then, I suppose I should do the only moral thing and invite players regardless of whether I think I can handle that many. No problem, not at all.

... Yeah, no, if enforcing my recruitment rules makes me a monster, I'll take 50 Might, please.

[Bitter]

@Jonathan link : Thanks for the clarification.

@ The almighty SG

Oh fine then, I suppose I should do the only moral thing and invite players regardless of whether I think I can handle that many. No problem, not at all.

... Yeah, no, if enforcing my recruitment rules makes me a monster, I'll take 50 Might, please.

Just to make sure we're on the same page because I sometimes suffer from misunderstanding on forums : I was ironic, I know you have to keep the number of player manageable. As a side note I really need an equivalent to exclamation mark for Irony... Maybe I'll make It a color on dialogue.

[Kareruren]

It seems the one tribunal that comes up more than any others at this point is Novograd from those who posted them.

[Never-Ending_Winter]

@Bitter

Just to make sure we're on the same page because I sometimes suffer from misunderstanding on forums : I was ironic, I know you have to keep the number of player manageable. As a side note I really need an equivalent to exclamation mark for Irony... Maybe I'll make It a color on dialogue.

I recognized the irony, and tried to respond with a joke. All-around communication failure? offers handshake

@Kareruren: I guess Novgorod works. Instead of being pagans in a strongly Christian land, we'll just be part of the mass of pre-existing filthy, backwater Pagans that need to be introduced to the light of Christianity. Kind of boring to have the frozen castle be surrounded by other cold stuff though. Then it just seems territorial instead of symbolic. Any strong objections aside from my own before I say "ah, screw it, I can join the Novvy fanclub"?

[callen]

My order of those:

1. Iberia
2. Alps
3. Novgorod (not set against it, just done a few of those)