Ars Magica Faerie Gods in modern times

In Dies Irae pg 120 Thor was reduced to a wreck by negative tales spread about him. If they were to exist in modern times how would the Faerie gods be affected by comic books and movies?
Would Thor now appear as a blond superhero rather than the classic red haired god?
What about other gods and myths?
Would the faeries take on the roles of modern superheroes and villains?
Would they appear in the material world?

What do you all think?

Modern faeries would shift into different roles because people stopped believing in faeries AS SUCH. Nobody regards comic book superheros as real in the way that 13th century peasants thought faeries were real. They'd move into the things that attract attention these days - vapid social media stars and the modern bugbears (terrorists, sexual predators); anything non-creative that attracts a great deal of attention. One could easily regard Kim Kardashian as a faerie - known for nothing but being attractive and famous for being famous. Or a boy band that has their material handed to them, just being handsome and singing and dancing on stage. Or the out-of-touch career politicians that say what people want to here but never seem to deliver on any of their promises.

I did not think belief was a part of the fairy need. It is just attention and stories. I do agree that Kardashian and someone like Trump( or almost any person running for a nationwide office)could be fairy just based on the amount of attention they are demanding. But they would have basically made Hollywood and the movie industry. Retelling the comic book stories via the big screen is what they would love. All of the sequels seems like a fairy plot to keep certain stories/characters in the public eye.

Not as such, but without the belief, the faerie gods would get far less attention. Comic book stories aren't considered the telling of legends in the way that the Greek or Norse legends were. It's the difference between myth and storytelling. If the MIGHTY THOR shows up, people assume it's somebody cosplaying - and then run for the police when he starts shooting lightning bolts, which is not the attention that role is seeking. Celebrities, OTOH, get exactly the sort of attention a faerie wants, so it would be very attractive to them.

To answer the OP, There would be a fairy god with Red hair acting out the old stories and a modern blond comic book fairy Thor. The modern fairy is playing Thor on the big screen and retelling stories from the comic books. There are not many people helping to act out old stories so that fairy god might have moved on.

I think Disney is run by the fairies :slight_smile:


The Pokemon are Faeries, extracting vitality from your trying to catch them all.

The Angry Birds are also Faeries.



I find that comic book heroes, with their constantly retconned and updated stories, are very much akin to Faeries. The similarity is even more pronounced with mythic characters such as wonder woman, in which the authors sometimes openly speak about the power of stories.

Take Tony Stark, for exemple: From the vietnam to afghanistan to whatever is the current deal, his origin story is constantly changing with the times, yet the basics stays the same.
And the current arc of wonder woman looks very much like an uncognisant faerie discovering her story and role have changed multiple times.

Modern faeries are

  • serial killers, especially hard-to-kill ones
  • in the 1950s-1970s Commies-Under-the-Bed
  • far-out hippies, man.
  • flag-burners!
  • Obama, whose fault it is for everything. I don't mean the actual one - I mean the faerie one who gets the blame for everything from the ruin of the country to hiding my car keys.
  • shadow people
  • Satanists and especially Satanic Cultists
  • Kids These Days
  • Aliens, especially Grays
  • Lake Monsters
  • Jade Helmet soldiers / UN stealth troops
  • Men in Black
  • For a while, Secular Humanists, but they've fallen out of currency.

All of the above being the subject of assorted moral panics.

hmm, these are pretty dark faeries so far, and generally very American.

Actually conspiracy theories get really close to faerie tales in terms of existing between belief and disbelief. A few faeries are probably driving around in (faerie) classic cars acting weird and telling people that what they saw is the light of Jupiter refracted through swamp gas, covering up for the greys (also faeries), and covering up the fact the moon landing was faked even though it wasn't. There are probably also faerie bigfoots and chupacabras...

There are faeries pretending to be Elvis, Hitler, and Marilyn, feeding off the energy created by their "sightings."

To give some examples of how comics might create faeries, there is a story Alan Moore tells of how he was in a bar and met John Constantine, a fictional character that Moore himself created. Moore also claims to have bumped into Constantine once previously. Moore seems to tell these stories in all seriousness.

A fictional example would be in the film ADVENTURES IN BABYSITTING, when a young girl, who is a fan of The Mighty Thor, sees an auto mechanic who physically resembles the character of Thor: long blonde hair, tall and muscular, blue clothing, holding a sledgehammer. The girl is certain the mechanic is really Thor. That's a faerie.

In order for a faerie to get vitality, they have to be interacting with people, and there aren't many stories of people interacting with a "real" Thor, Iron Man, or Captain America. But when the actor playing Captain America dresses up and goes to a cancer ward, acting as Captain America the whole time? That's totally a faerie doing that.

Cosplayers and the Real Life Superhero movement create more possibilities for faeries to gain vitality. When you meet a cosplayer at a bar near the convention, and he looks and talks so much like Thor that he makes a better Thor than the actor playing him? Faerie. Bonus points if he performs small acts of charity, like escorting children across a busy intersection or speaking out in favor of police, firefighters, and other first responders. Real Life Superheroes are faeries who use the superhero story to gain vitality from homeless people to whom they deliver water, clean clothes and bedding, hospital patients they visit, drunken club goers whose bar brawls they defuse, and highway drivers who flat tires they replace by the side of the road. All of these encounters get repeated over and over by the mortals involved, for the rest of their mortal lives, empowering more and more faeries.


Only the copycats.

This is the real reason that criminal profiling works.



I quite like the idea that ComicCon is a huge vodun festival where people are being ridden by the loa.

(I also agree that modern faeries are urban myth characters. So, say you are a white American female over the age of 16: you are safer than you ever have been, statistically, and the person most likely to attack you is actually known to you. If you go out at night and carry mace regardless, or wind your keys through your fingers as a punch dagger, or recite to yourself to yell "fire" instead of rape? That's like carrying garlic, or mismatching a button, or doing the selkie folk-chant. Medieval people weren't superstitious idiots: they just framed their concerns in different ways to the way we do.)