Doubt regarding Animae Magic

[Tadeln]

Hi sodalis!

First message in the forums and i start with a doubt.

My question is the following: how should be the Anima guidelines (HoH: Mystery Cults page 94) be interpreted? For example for Herbam it says:

Creo Herbam Level 5: Create a faerie of the wood.

And the general guidelines say:

Animae spells must always be designed at a level greater than that given in the guidelines. For example, to summon a faerie insect with a Might Score of 1 is a base level 11 Creo Animal effect, and to change a pool of water into a water faerie with Might 10 requires an effect of base level 20

So on top of that should we stack the Range, Objective and Duration requirements? So for example a spell to create a faerie servant for a day should be:

Calling the faerie cupper
CrHe Level 30
R: Touch D: Sun O: Ind.
Creates an animae, from a handful of leaves, in the form of an elven cup bearer (faerie might 10) that can be coaxed or convinces, in exchange for some of the wine, to serve the mage during a day in her capacities as valet and butler
Base 5 +1 Touch +2 Sun +10 leves of Faerie Might

Or are the 15 extra levels for the range and duration not really needed?

[Ouroboros]

Absolutely required.

The spell is perfectly designed (except that instead of Objetive the last parameter is named Target). [strike]The only thing I would frown upon is all that Might; do you really need a faerie of Might 10 to act as your butler? It just makes the spell way too big, and the fae harder to affect with further spells. And that if you are a Merinita, act as such and weirden your spells; why opting for D:Sun when you can take D:Midday/Midnight?[/strike]

Edit: just dashing the controversial parts.

[Sir_Swindle1 (Sir_Swindle)]

@Ouroboros

The spell is perfectly designed (except that instead of Objetive the last parameter is named Target). The only thing I would frown upon is all that Might; do you really need a faerie of Might 10 to act as your butler? It just makes the spell way too big, and the fae harder to affect with further spells. And that if you are a Merinita, act as such and weirden your spells; why opting for D:Sun when you can take D:Midday/Midnight?

Presumably it was just and example. 10 is a round number and all that.

[Ouroboros]

And my reply a comment to that example. 0 is also a round number, you know.

[Tellus]

@Tadeln

First message in the forums

Welcome Sodalis!

and i start with a doubt.

I believe that the most common reason to start posting in fora like this.

As has already been mentioned

@Ouroboros

The spell is perfectly designed (except that instead of Objetive the last parameter is named Target).

However;

And that if you are a Merinita, act as such and weirden your spells; why opting for D:Sun when you can take D:Midday/Midnight?

This represents a very narrow view of Faeries and House Merinita. Please don't force it on people.
And if what we're dealing with, is simply an example, that's even more rude.

If you want a cup bearer for a day, that's excellent. Or you could go with

Calling the faerie cupper
CrHe Level 20, Ritual
R: Touch D: Momentary T: Ind.
Creates an animae, from a handful of leaves, in the form of an elven cup bearer (faerie might 10) that can be coaxed or convinces, in exchange for some of the wine, to serve the mage during a day in her capacities as valet and butler
Base 5, +1 Touch, +10 leves of Faerie Might

...though obviously this one would be a ritual, and a s such cost Vis.

@Ouroboros

And my reply a comment to that example. 0 is also a round number, you know.

Yes, but supernatural entities tend to stop existing at Might 0. I wouldn't allow it.
And also, that would obscure the point of the question, if it is indeed simply an example.

[Ouroboros]

I'm really sorry, I though I was just giving an opinion, instead of forcing people to do my will regarding how Tr00 Merinita must be, being rude and commenting off topic example bits all along. I apologize for that, and I dashed all the controversial parts of my reply above.

My most sincere apologies.

[Tadeln]

Thank you all for the replies! Doubt solved!

Will probably come back with more though ^^

My most sincere apologies.

No offense taken. Liked the comment about duration "midnight".

Presumably it was just and example. 10 is a round number and all that.

In fact i did chose Might 10 because that is the might of the first example of faeric creature in the basic manual : Mateos the faeric cupper. See on chapter XIII.

[Tellus]

@Ouroboros

I'm really sorry, I though I was just giving an opinion, instead of forcing people to do my will regarding how Tr00 Merinita must be, being rude and commenting off topic example bits all along. I apologize for that, and I dashed all the controversial parts of my reply above.

My most sincere apologies.

... I I was probably rather overly blunt about it. My apologies in return.