He's in Back for Seconds, the Daedalus era supplement, which is why there were difficulties in including him in Gorilla Warfare. If you can't get hold of a second-hand copy, here are the basics in a non-infringing kind of way:
Nearly as tough as a Bruiser, a signature Minigun, Flight, Who Wants Some? x2.
As written his Guns AV is rather disappointing.
Beyond that, any details you add will be perfectly viable.
I don't know the full details, but I gather that anything in a Daedalus-era supplement that hasn't been repeated in an Atlas book has permission issues that are complicated at best.
I don't think it makes much difference at this point, but I think we should perhaps keep the official Atlas forum clean of any problems.
I've noticed that Back for Seconds is referenced in E.to the Netherworld (p71). Is this older supplement backwards compatible then? If so is it worth hunting down and getting?
Pretty much. Very little changed between the editions- the basics are the same. The Daedalus supplements have a greater fondness for unique abilities, rather than schticks that are also available to players.
I hunted down a copy, but then I am a shameless Feng Shui completist.
Yeah I'm a bit of a completest too, though it's a lot harder to acquire the books for Feng Shui then it is with other lines that I'm collecting.
Not helped with a basic lack of cash at the moment.
Would be nice to see this forum kick started though. I've only had one 3 session game of Feng Shui about 5 years ago and my interest has just peeked again when I managed to get hold of the rule book and remembered just how good it was.
There are some pretty interesting characters in there, although there's also an annoying number of tangential references to the Shadowfist material - things which were presumably going to be published in supplements that never happened. And personally, I especially like the Operation Killdeer story at the end of the book - gives you a good feeling for the way in which things can go completely and dramatically pear-shaped. If your pears explode messily and fatally, taking out whole city-blocks.
But isn't most of the information in Back for Seconds reprinted in source material from the Atlas book 1999 and source material onwards?
Knowing me as well as I do (which is a lot, because I'm me) I'll probably end up hunting it down if it's even got a few pages of stuff you can't find anywhere else. - Like furious george for example.
Actually, very little of it seems to be reprinted ... the new archetypes reappeared in the Atlas rulebook, but the bulk of the book is NPCs, including some very hardcore ones, as well as a number of faction-specific footsoldiers ... Homo Omega, Draco, the Green and Orange monks, Dump Warriors, Chromosome Screamers, Orango-Tank, the White Ninja, and more ... most of which succumbed to the copyright issues.
Erm, sorry if that whetted your appetite ... [grin]
I thought I was doing well for tracking down all of the Atlas printed games for under #100 on ebay and the like...*
I had my wife on another computer when it came to ebay to make sure we had them all....she nearly had a heart attack bidding at the last minute. Now I must put her through it all again.
*I refuse to buy the d20 feng shui crossover book for a multitude of reasons.
Oops. Sorry about that! Please apologise to your wife on my behalf.
I think I've got most of the sourcebooks, although I seem to be somewhat doomed when it comes to actually running it. I can also recommend Golden Comeback, if you've not picked that up yet - it's available to buy as an approved .pdf download, if you can't locate a print copy (I couldn't).
yeah, sorry I was talking about that shoalin one. blah. blah I say.
Yeah, I have Golden Comeback. It was sitting on my shelf for ages as I bought a whole bunch of books at the same time and was looking forward to reading that one the most.
Completed my collection of the Feng Shui books about 2 years ago (thank you Leisure games) and havent managed to play a game since.
Good books to just read through though. Especially when the wife has something on the TV i hate like 'Big Brother'! Wish the Big Brother set was a Feng Shui site so that the Jammers could blow that place up real good. (Might make a good game session that)
On a unrelated (well 'kinda' related) note, has anyone massively changed the Feng Shui setting since it's 'starting' time period of 1996? As in is anyone playing a game set in 2009 but with massive changes in the major powers of the time war? I can't help but think I should make some changes like that when I finally get to play again, maybe following the shadowfist updated storyline (losely).
The only changes I've made are fairly inconsequential (i.e. HK after the handover, mobile phones being much more readily available).
The Secret War changes were only as a result of the ongoing Plot, with Ming I getting offed by the party (then coming back). The Lotus and the Architects are currently on the ropes somewhat, and when the campaign enters its fourth season (probably around 2010) I might well slip the Purists in for a bit of a variety.