I explain the situation, i haven´t find anything on the forums by searching, but I do know something the threads tell mucho more than the title does.
In my campaign there is a Necromancer who has two flaws. He has true love and magic animal (the ghost of his true love). The thing is that after some campaing and some development he thought about creating the living body for his true love firstly as a talisman. Then he though of making it his familiar and using the familiar rules to make her all the enchantment for her to control the body and to make the living corpse (Hermetic projects 96) or based on that do something to let control a body to his familiar and true love. I am ok with that.
The thing is he needs a body to do the living body. He has thinked of taking a corpse of a very pure woman. The things did not went as he planed and looking for other ways to do it, we came acros with the idea of ritually creating a body.
I do want to ask you about how would you rule about the stats of this body. Initially i though hey you capture a woman i give her stats, you take the str, sta, dex, quik, and maybe i can alter presence if she has it very high or very low. The mental ones come from the character sheet of the ghost. Thw thing is if you are going to create a body, what characteristics would it have? Could you create a perfect body, would it need a finesse roll? would you use the "complex design" that many spell has as the creo terram tower?
By the way what do you think about the rules i would aply for the statistics, would you max to 7 with the mentals of the ghost + the physical ones of the body? and the rest should be ritualized? There has been some demonic interference in this issue, due to it. The ghost will be able to learn and talk, but will give him the penalty of being detected permanently as lightly infernalist (maybe in contact with some infernalist or with some devil) since he linked with the familiar, the ghost will have the vengeful trait at +6 and he will inherit a +2 of his own, lastly he will be able to use Vis Infesta (Realms of power The infernal 18) with no penalty.
What do you think about most of it? What do you think about the body and its stats?
When Hermetic Magic creates something ritually, it tends to be a perfect specimen/sample of the thing created. The created corpse would thus be without flaws, defects, scars etc. No need for any Finesse rolls or extra modifiers. You can still cosmetically determine the appearance of a corpse, assuming you did so while inventing the spell.
In terms of stats Hermetic Projects clarifies this matter. A hermetically created corpse has the same stats as the Revenant from RoP:M, except that it lacks Might Magic Qualities or any Mental Characteristics. Otherwise it has the following:
Str: 3
Sta: 3
Dex: 1
Qck: 0
That being said, I think it should be reasonable for you to be able to move these stats around (again, if that decision was made during the invention process, but YSMV of course). The wife's mental stats would overwrite corpse/revenant/victim's mental stats when she takes Possession.
He should be able to take her Spirit as a Familiar (providing he has a Spirit Familiar virtue), but he wouldn't normally be able to take a Corpse as a Familiar? A Talisman? Absolutely.
As for the Infernal influence / corruption and Vis Infesta, generally how that works is a matter of Realm Alignment. If the Necromancer has any infernal virtue or ability, he will be considered aligned to Infernal Realm and able to use all infernal vis without the associated negative side effects.
That is really twisted: take a look at ArM5 p.80 The Limit of True Feeling. But for a Necromancer a Talisman cum Familiar cum Twisted True Love might even be very appropriate. If you are ok with it, it is ok.
I won´t mind letting him take the familiar even without having the spirit familiar virtue. We can´t play with every book, since most of my players can´t read rulebooks written in English. So it is fine without any virtue. I will let them know that usually u would need a virtue, but to the fact that he has 2 flaws in regard to it. And it will give him somewhat infernalist penalties, he does not need the virtue.
What we meant is that after binding the familiar he will enchant it, so it can posses a body and so on. But by enchantment created by the magus in laboratory to his familiar. Not by the power of the bond or any other sort of thing. We read that a familiar is enchantable by normal means to have any quantity of enchancements, ofc that his magus can create.
I did almost exactly this way back when. My magus bound a ghost while preserving her corpse (and killing her killers). He enchanted her corpse as his Talisman. He then did living-corpse stuff to give her control of her body. He also had Quiet Magic (x2) + Subtle Magic, so he would do his magic while touching her, and the magic would seem to come from her. So everyone thought she was the mage and he was some sort of companion.
You mean to embody the Ghost? Its the easiest way to give her a body, but some questions arise from this.
Would It be Alive? Would It heal? What would happen with the wounds? Could It be permanently destroyed if its "killed" in physical form? I do not know if this things has been said un The forums, but I can't think a way of doing It that seems good or proper to me.
There may be different ways to doing it, but the inmost companion is a good model. Since unlike a regular human, the ghost doesn't have both a mind and a body, you're not looking at a body outside your body thing. The ghost would essentially become human for the duration of the effect. Yes, there would be wounds, the same way a human would have wounds, and yes, if the body is slain, the mind is slain (see Inmost Companion) and therefore it's a death which would leave vis behind. Bear in mind that a ghost can already be permanently destroyed. On the upside, since the bond can maintain concentration, but the partner must activate the effect, you could choose when it has a body and when it doesn't, or whether it's a constant effect. And you could both go for an approach that the body looks like it did in life, or that the body looks like what you want.
If you're looking for an effect to make a ghost corporeal, I would look at TMRE p.68 since this power is listed there. But, unfortunately, it really doesn't say what happens. Figuring they're being made into a body, I would just have them retain the Wounds sustained in their ghostly form.
take a look at ArM5 p.80 The Limit of True Feeling. But for a Necromancer a Talisman cum Familiar cum Twisted True Love might even be very appropriate. If you are ok with it, it is ok. 