OOC: Character Creation

That sounds like dreaming to me. That's an enormous library for a newly founded covenant. Don't get me wrong. I love enormous libraries.

For Lignarius' contribution to the library:
De rerum Platonis (on the matters of Plato) L15 Q15 summa on Creo
De Arborum (on the trees) L15 Q11 summa on Herbam
Level 20 lab text of Aegis of the Hearth

for Vis, I will take 4 Rego and 6 Herbam.

I have had this same issue before. Rego crafting magic is amazingly difficult unless you can break it down to smaller bits. IMHO, A profession or skill should add into the total needed for rego craft magic. Now this would not work for large items that require a guild to build like a ship or building. But if a magus wanted to invest points/time into a profession that they can then use craft magic to make it easier then it should be accounted for.

I have been trying to find the conversion of labor points to craft magic but I have not been able to yet.

Can I assume that this has 20 penetration as well?

Reynard has Aegis @lvl 25

I don't understand the double levels for wards.

lol higher level and harder to research = less powerful.

If you create a ward vs Fire do you need to penetrate the Might of a creature or does it need to penetrate the ward? It renders classes of spells useless.

I thought that it came from the 60 points?

A bad question on my part. Our casting total needs to be 40 to get the 20 penetration.

is there a problem if I do a lvl20 Q 10 summae? Or is lvl 15 the max and I just missed that post?

If the rule is now only one of your 60 point build picks can be a Summae level 15, Quality 15 I need a new pick (or lower level or quality) from Magnus please:

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[th]Author[/th]
[th]Type[/th]
[th]Subj[/th]
[th]Lvl[/th]
[th]Qual[/th]
[th]Lang[/th]
[th]Scribed[/th]
[th]Bound[/th]
[th]Illuminated[/th]
[th]Resonance[/th]
[th]Added to Library[/th]
[th]Current user[/th]
[th]Contributor[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Unknown[/td]
[td]Unknown[/td]
[td]Summae[/td]
[td]Perdo[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]Latin[/td]
[td]Yes[/td]
[td]Yes[/td]
[td]Yes[/td]
[td]Yes +1[/td]
[td]Spring 1220[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]Magnus[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Unknown[/td]
[td]Unknown[/td]
[td]Summae[/td]
[td]Intellego[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]Latin[/td]
[td]Yes[/td]
[td]Yes[/td]
[td]Yes[/td]
[td]Yes +1[/td]
[td]Spring 1220[/td]
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So "Ward Against Heat and Fames" needs to penetrate to work?

Reynard will also bring a commentary on the Vim Summae he brings.

Quality 11, need to have read the summae.

Yes it does, I am afraid, if the attack comes from a power from something with a might score. If you read the P113 of HoH: Societies in the Columbae section "Wards and Penetration@ it spells it out in the best way I have seen. The fact that Columbae Warding don't have to penetrate vs things with a might score is why they are so powerful

How will you fund the commentary from the 60 points i.e. what are you changing from the two Summae listed?

He wrote it

Sorry, I remember now, you paid with time from your two years. I'll update the Library sheet.

I still need you to reduce one of your two Summae down or change one out for an ability.

Seems like they retroactively created that rule to make the Columbae.

So, a Magic Cat of Black Lineage and he makes a ward. The ward first needs to penetrate what he is warding against so what he is warding against has the opportunity to try to penetrate the cat's ward, or is it the reverse?

See... rule just confuses things.

Philosophae Summae, Vim Summae, and the Vim commentary.

The Philosophae can hopefully have some formula?

Preparing complex items, do you guys know the difference between using more Vis to prepare everything and using less Vis for just the most expensive part?

Also, does it matter for a Talisman?

Thank you - any preference on the level and quality of the Philosophae summae or should I just pick for you?

Options are Level 5 Quality 15, Level 6 Quality 12, Level 7 Quality 9 or Level 8 Quality 6