OOC Chatter: Anything goes!

Hey. I resemble that. Well Sophronia's does, in any event :wink:

Also I'm assuming Lex Hermei is Latin for Code of Hermes. :stuck_out_tongue:

I can't decide if it should be "Lex Hermei" or "Lex Hermeticum" but yes, that's the general idea :stuck_out_tongue:

I'm a bit confused by time here.
I have her arriving in Winter 1221, ostensibly the council meeting of Spring 1221. I figured she would have paid for the vis storage in advance, meaning 1221 is covered, and she needs to figure out what to do in 1222 forward. As far as donating it to the covenant, well, after Lilly kicks her out, she's under no obligation to give them to the covenant, and instead will keep steward them for her purposes that align with hers, the covenant's and her House's interests.
Also, given that we're advancing to 1222, and she arrived in Winter 1221, that means one season, correct?

Winter is the first season of the year (Dec-Jan-Feb).

I'm still unclear.
Does winter 1221 start in December of 1220? Is the correct calendar indicated, for all months, except December?

You said to advance through Spring 1221. You put up a Tribunal date of Summer 1222.

If we are jumping to Summer of 1222, should we advance to spring 1221? Alternatively, tell me how many seasons I should advance, when I arrived in Winter (undetermined date) of 1221, based on the present date.

Exactly.

oops-- typo. Should be advancing through spring 1222.

No, I just doublechecked-- it does say "advance through Spring 1222." The thread is just entitled "1221 Advancement."

My mistake, the whole winter starting the year turned me around. It's going to require some adjustment for me.

I thought about doing it as Jan-Mar as Spring, but it made my head hurt.

The Welsh/celtic/pagan Spring being the start of the year in March makes a lot of sense, and what I subscribe to for Bibracte. Spring is the beginning Winter is the end. One ages at the end of the year, rather than the beginning of the year, and so on. Like I said, I just need to mentally adjust.

The rapid replies of late make me wonder if having a chat room might be a worthwhile pursuit.

That spell makes the dirt and grime really bad at being dirty and grimy... PeTe doesn't make the room better at being stony, right? :slight_smile:

Ars writers take Emerson to heart. A foolish consistency...

Same thing here. It's as for the covenants: Spring = Birth, Winter = death.
So I'm as lost as you are :laughing:
It was the same thing with Marko, and it made both our heads hurt.

In short, arya: For the year 1221, how many seasons of advancment should we do? And for the year 1222?
That way, we don't care about when is when and can all be on the same page, even if you're in winter and JL and I in spring :laughing:

:laughing: this is the best explanation I've seen for this :smiley:

I've moved the meta game discussion over here...

Well, to be fair, the spell in Covenants was just flat out wrong and ignored the published guideline in the MRB. Base15, ward target against humans. I'm speculating the theory is that humans have free will, and are therefore more difficult to ward than animals/plants/etc. Yeah, it sucks to discover something like this, but you get why I, as Sophronia was extremely cautious about warding Sinmore in the first place. Also, in Sinmore's case, it's another magnitude for corpus, so a 35th level spell, and then needing penetration above and beyond that? Forget about it. She's going where she wants, and you can't do anything to stop her.

Because it feels like we're getting information based on something Sophronia should already (reasonably) know. If she knows it now, she knew it before, why hasn't she acted on it. I can't even comprehend an answer to the question. It doesn't make any consistent sense for the character as I envisioned. Let me put it another way, do you as a SG, really want to deal with the PC conflict of Sinmore being discovered as a werewolf and hiding it, Sophronia complicit in hiding it? I really can't fathom how both remain members of Gallus Florensis, especially Sinmore as she destroyed a primary income source, and Sophronia stood by and watched it happen. It's one thing to say, if you don't act by X, I'm going to and you won't like the result. It gets things moving in areas you want resolved, it reminds players to take actions that hey should be reasonably assumed to take. Is it meta-gamey? Yeah, but now we're dealing with metagame issues on the backside, rather than up front. Up front discussions take less time and make sure players are on the same page, and then allow interesting stories to develop rather than back and forth. It's easier to agree beforehand than to settle disagreements when they've erupted.

I didn't realize you didn't know until you posted yesterday that a ward would have to be both Animal and Corpus.

Yes to the first part, and as to the second, I don't see that being anywhere near so catastrophic as you do.

There's the obvious, "She made me promise to keep her secret, and swore she'd get it under control. She gave me no reason to doubt her until now."

Or, "She refused to take responsibility for herself, so I made sure no covenfolk got hurt, and let her hang herself with her own rope." This is a very Justinius-ish mentality.

I am having an exceedingly difficult time figuring how Sinmore is still around, too. The only reasonable way I figured that she was allowed to stay after destroying Maribus' journal was if Maribus' family felt that keeping her around made it easier for them to exact revenge later, when it wouldn't be so obvious whodunnit, and make it look like an accident. Which was just postponing a bigger problem. But I thought, hey, maybe she'll make amends, or otherwise prove herself a valuable contributor to the covenant, and then Lily and Sanno and Attravere can change their minds.

That doesn't carry over to Sophia, though.

And this goes to the heart of the problem I have with Sophia, you have a better handle on her than I do.

Oh, and PC conflict in PBPs is something I've learned to avoid. :wink: If it's going to happen in PBPs it has to be metagamed out, otherwise people get butthurt, as you say. There are all kinds of cues in tabeltop gaming that make it a better environment for PC conflict. Those don't translate over PBP, as well, IMO.

I played in a one-shot where my friend and I got handed characters that were natural enemies for each other. We had our characters trade snipes for a little while, and I got so stressed about it that I had to hug him and then switch characters with someone else. :slight_smile:

I was just presenting some options. The second option is one her pater would have done, but that doesn't mean she has much, if anything, in common with him.

I really want to avoid putting advancement and Tribunal on hold for everyone, because of one Story Flaw.