Range/Targeting question.

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I am having a brian freeze..

Can the range of a group spell be personal? I am designing a group Leap of Homecoming spell, and am trying to keep the level down, so want a range personal target group version. Is that possible? I know it puts lots of restrictions on the groups the Magus may take with him, but is it OK other than that?

Bob

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I am not sure I understand what you are trying to do.
A spell with Range:Personal affects the Magus and the Magus alone, so the Target can normally not be larger than Individual. (ArM5 p111)

Edit:
There is at least one exception to this: If you been initiated into the Sensory Magic mystery you can use certain Personal range spells against people who can sense you. (HoH:MC p27-29)

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No. See ArM5 p.111:

Personal: This spell only affects the casting magus or things he is wearing or carrying. The target is thus never larger than Individual.

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I mean if the magus were under some sort of magical effect that made them a collective there might be an exception... duplicate bodies of the busy magus?

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In our saga we used an enchanted device for this: R: Touch, T: Ind and a few uses per day. This is in general easier than T: Group.
It requires several applications to transport a group and hence some time, but it also cannot botch.

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I knew there was something obvious I had missed. Thanks guys!

Bob

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If you want to transport entire groups via Leap of Homecoming it might be worth noting that, while a R:Per T:Group version (at +2 magnitudes) is not feasible, a R:Touch T:Circle version (at just +1 magnitude!) certainly is.

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One Shot knows this, but for @rgd20 :

Just remember that this (likely) causes warping.

Of course, no risk of a botch means no risk of Twilight!

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Isn’t there still a risk of botch on the finesse roll to teleport?

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That's not a casting roll, and may well not cause Twilight.
If it's even required.

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Botching finesse or concentration rolls on spells grants warping points just like botching while casting the spell does.

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Source please? I'm asking because I've seen this debated ad nauseam and would like a place in a book to point to.

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