[Saga] Congrats. You have won the books. All of them.

So, in my latest game, the travelling group of wizards have managed to the hydra-version of Polymathes, the librarian dragon. Polymathes has long been seeking libraries and book collections, and stealing them when opportunity arose. His latest shenanigans involved stealing the mundane libraries from two Theban mystery cults, and setting each cult up to appear as the guilty party to the other.

The players, of course, managed to discover the real meat of the issue, and tracked down Polymathes to his lair beneath the volcano on the island of Milos.

Polymathes' was initially targeted for destruction, until Helios the Quaesitor realised that a Hydra and his attendant library would likely fulfill some of his Study Requirement Flaw needs for Mentem and Intellego for a good long while.

So, diplomacy became the issue of the day, and so the players are going to work out a deal by which the Hydra receives new books (as well as shelves and magic items to turn pages for the hydra's heads, and an organizational system), the cults get their books back, and access to the Hydra's lair-brary is available to the Mystery Cult that Helios belongs to (the Mystical Fraternity of Samos) and perhaps the player covenant.

NOW, my issues is... I've told the group that the hydra's lair is just chock-full of books. The Hydra recognized the name Bonisagus and said it thinks it had a book by him in that pile of books over there. The complete Critias and the lost Hermocrates of Plato also are known to exist somewhere in the Hydra's lair.

I'm tempted to slap the PDF of Mundane Books from the Atlas site down and say "you have access to all of these".

But can any of the students of history note any cool, possibly lost books that the bibliophile hydra might possess? He's known to have been stealing books since written language was invented, and has to some extent taken advantage of the the sack of Constantinople, and may have set fire to the library of Alexandria to cover his theft of the books therein etc. etc.

What might the book by Bonisagus be?

What ideas might people have for interesting books to be found therein?

Thanks for reading!



Some valuable books of Bonisagus were stolen by the evil sister of Trianoma, Viea. According to the records, by these books Bonisagus based his Magic Theory, and finding them could fill the actual holes :wink: . The full history can be found in Houses of Hermes: True Lineages, pgs 8 et al.

Hope it helps!

Ah, excellent! Thanks marciano!

I don't have the chops in classics or history to give you the answer you were asking for, so here's another one instead:

Why limit yourself to real-world historical books? Do you realize that this library is a bottomless flagon of story hooks just waiting to be read and discovered? If you have Ancient Magic, you can launch stories about any or all of those magical traditions by planting some clues in the library.

Try this to start...





What kinds of stories do you want to run?

You can have older, more authentic versions of various Biblical texts that cast doubt on some of the most deeply held beliefs in Mythic Europe. Is this real, or was the book Infernally inspired? Polymathes doesn't know or care; he keeps these texts because they are part of his collection, even though the subject matter is tedious to him. Maybe it's just the Gospel of Thomas, or something else lost.

You can have a text about the Druids, or the Diedne. Maybe a Diedne's lab notebook? Text for a Diedne ritual or initiation? Not historical, of course.

You can have the Donation of Constantine... the real one. Not quite a book, but quite a prize.

How about a bunch of cuneiform tablets from Sumeria? Medieval Europe doesn't really need The Epic of Gilgamesh, but a magus who translates it might want to undertake the ordeal of not sleeping to gain immortality....

The Lost Diaries of Cleopatra. Not real, but who cares?



Well it could be real, we wouldnt know either way. :mrgreen:

Wow, Verticius, this is awesome:
SO many story ideas here....

Not sure if these are on the list of Mundane books, but the works of Galen would certainly be in the lair.

My first thought immediately jumped to lost languages, or rare languages: Cuneiform, hieroglyphics, Celtic and Nordish runes, Asian pictographs, Ancient Hebrew, etc.
The dragon would be a source for learning the languages...but what would he want to trade for this knowledge?

How about the second book of the Poetics of Aristotle, written in Greek on linen paper and bound in a volume with an Arabic text, a Syriac one, and an interpretation or a transcription of the Coena Cypriani? :wink:


Erik, are you having trouble distinguishing between "play" and "torture" again?


Is there a need for such distinction? :slight_smile: