Still more on the Library.
I think we should have two Tractatus on Divine Lore, 2 on Infernal Lore, 3 on Magic Lore, one on Faerie Lore. In addition, we have 3 Order of Hermes Lore Tractatus, being a compendium of Tribunal decisions. That uses up 11 of the 15 remaining tractatus. Perhaps we take more Techniques (Intellego, Muto, Perdo, and Rego).
Should those be Order of Hermes Lore or Code of Hermes? Regardless, we ought to have at least one or two tractatus on Code of Hermes.
How's this? I put in three Code of Hermes tractatus (Tribunal decisions), and one Order of Hermes Lore (a primer on tribunal organization). With the three left over I went for Muto, Perdo, and Rego, since there were already two Intellego tractatus (albeit holy versions). I think I have the totals right, but would appreciate some double checking. I haven't entered all the data into the spreadsheet yet.
[tableborder][tr][th]Cost[/th] [th]Subject[/th] [th]Book Type[/th] [th]Level[/th] [th]Quality[/th] [th]Language[/th][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Creo[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]19[/center][/td] [td][center]12[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Intellego (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]19[/center][/td] [td][center]12[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Perdo[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]19[/center][/td] [td][center]12[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Mentem[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]17[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Rego[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]17[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Terram[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]17[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Muto[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]17[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]30[/center][/td] [td][center]Muto (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]30[/center][/td] [td][center]Imaginem[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]30[/center][/td] [td][center]Ignem[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]30[/center][/td] [td][center]Vim[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]30[/center][/td] [td][center]Intellego[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]30[/center][/td] [td][center]Herbam (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]29[/center][/td] [td][center]Animal[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]12[/center][/td] [td][center]17[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]29[/center][/td] [td][center]Terram (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]18[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]29[/center][/td] [td][center]Auram[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]18[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]29[/center][/td] [td][center]Herbam[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]18[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]29[/center][/td] [td][center]Aquam (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]18[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]29[/center][/td] [td][center]Corpus[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]18[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]27[/center][/td] [td][center]Aquam[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]21[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]45[/center][/td] [td][center]Bible*[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]3[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]35[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Theory[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]8[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]34[/center][/td] [td][center]Parma Magica[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]33[/center][/td] [td][center]Finesse[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]15[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]33[/center][/td] [td][center]Artes Liberales[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]15[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]33[/center][/td] [td][center]Penetration[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]15[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]33[/center][/td] [td][center]Philosophiae[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]15[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]34[/center][/td] [td][center]Concentration[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]5[/center][/td] [td][center]19[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Creo[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Creo[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Perdo[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Rego[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Animal[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Corpus[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Herbam[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Mentam[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Mentam[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Vim[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Theory[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Theory[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Parma Magica[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Philosophiae[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Creo[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Creo (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Intellego (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Rego[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Corpus[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Vim[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Divine Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Finesse[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Theory[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Parma Magica[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Penetration[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Creo (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Corpus[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Code of Hermes[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr] [tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Divine Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr] [tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Faerie Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr] [tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Infernal Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr] [tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Theory[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr] [tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Order of Hermes Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Parma Magica (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Intellego (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Muto[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Perdo[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Code of Hermes[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Code of Hermes[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Infernal Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Theory[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][th]627[/th] [th]Art Summa[/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th][/tr]
[tr][th]280[/th] [th]Ability Summa[/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th][/tr]
[tr][th]293[/th] [th]Tractatus[/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th][/tr]
[tr][th]1200[/th] [th]Complete[/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th][/tr][/tableborder]
We have:
598 BP of Arts Summae,
280 BP of Ability Summae
304 BP of Tractatus:
This is a total of 1182, so we can have two more Q9 Tractatus. Make them Order of Hermes Lore? Or take the other OoH Lore, and make a BP 28 book = Level 6 Q10 of Order of Hermes Lore?
I say go for the summa.
For that matter, we’ve got 28 points of Code of Hermes tractatus . We could do the same thing there. It could be a summa outlining the basics of the Code with rulings up until it was written.
I think a suma on OoH Lore would better then 3-4 tractatus. I don't think there is much use for OoH Lore or Code of Hermes past level 6 in a normal covenant.
Agreed. Make the Code of Hermes and Order of Hermes into summae. It's a lot more efficient, and since no one is playing a Guenicus, it's good enough for us.
[tableborder][tr][th]Cost[/th] [th]Subject[/th] [th]Book Type[/th] [th]Level[/th] [th]Quality[/th] [th]Language[/th][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Creo[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]19[/center][/td] [td][center]12[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Intellego (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]19[/center][/td] [td][center]12[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Perdo[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]19[/center][/td] [td][center]12[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Mentem[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]17[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Rego[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]17[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Terram[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]17[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]31[/center][/td] [td][center]Muto[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]17[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]30[/center][/td] [td][center]Muto (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]30[/center][/td] [td][center]Imaginem[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]30[/center][/td] [td][center]Ignem[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]30[/center][/td] [td][center]Vim[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]30[/center][/td] [td][center]Intellego[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]30[/center][/td] [td][center]Herbam (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]29[/center][/td] [td][center]Animal[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]12[/center][/td] [td][center]17[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]29[/center][/td] [td][center]Terram (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]18[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]29[/center][/td] [td][center]Auram[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]18[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]29[/center][/td] [td][center]Herbam[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]18[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]29[/center][/td] [td][center]Aquam (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]18[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]29[/center][/td] [td][center]Corpus[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]18[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]27[/center][/td] [td][center]Aquam[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]21[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]45[/center][/td] [td][center]Bible*[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]3[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]35[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Theory[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]8[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]34[/center][/td] [td][center]Parma Magica[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]16[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]33[/center][/td] [td][center]Finesse[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]15[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]33[/center][/td] [td][center]Artes Liberales[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]15[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]33[/center][/td] [td][center]Penetration[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]15[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]33[/center][/td] [td][center]Philosophiae[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]15[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]34[/center][/td] [td][center]Concentration[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]5[/center][/td] [td][center]19[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]28[/center][/td] [td][center]Code of Hermes[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]28[/center][/td] [td][center]Order of Hermes Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Summa[/center][/td] [td][center]6[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
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[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Creo[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Perdo[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Rego[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Animal[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Corpus[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Herbam[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Mentam[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Mentam[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Vim[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Theory[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Theory[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Parma Magica[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]-^[/center][/td] [td][center]Philosophiae[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]14[/center][/td] [td][center]Latin[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Creo[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Creo (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Intellego (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Rego[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Corpus[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Vim[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Divine Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Finesse[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Theory[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Parma Magica[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Penetration[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]11[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Creo (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Corpus[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Divine Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Faerie Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Infernal Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Theory[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Parma Magica (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]10[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Intellego (holy)[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Muto[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Perdo[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Infernal Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Lore[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Magic Theory[/center][/td] [td][center]Tractatus[/center][/td] [td][center]-[/center][/td] [td][center]9[/center][/td] [td][center]Classical Greek[/center][/td][/tr]
[tr][th]598[/th] [th]Art Summa[/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th][/tr]
[tr][th]336[/th] [th]Ability Summa[/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th][/tr]
[tr][th]266[/th] [th]Tractatus[/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th][/tr]
[tr][th]1200[/th] [th]Complete[/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th] [th][/th][/tr][/tableborder]
lets hope Silveroak is also fine with that list.
looks good to me
A couple of things:
1)
Medieval Thessalonika had a population of 150,000 compared to modern Thessalonika which has a population of just over 1 million, and people tended to be packed closer together i medieval cities due to transportation issues, so mu guess would be closer to 1/10 the size of modern day Thessalonika, or 49 square miles, which is 7 miles to a side. It should be noted that London, which had a similar population and was widely reputed for its size as well was 1.12 square miles, so even my estimate might be a bit large.
2) spending my build points: I intend to spend my points first raising my lab size to +7 (50 points) and spending the remainder on 5 level 10 ignem tractatus.
I'd estimate closer to Constantinople than London. But still, probably in the 2-3ish miles to a side for medieval Thessaloniki seems to be a reasonable guess.
Unfortunately, non-standard size is 20 BP/Size, not 10 BP/Size. You could get a Size 7 Lab, but it would cost all your BP.
Shows what happens when I try to go on memory for aspects I don't use often. Then it is all in the lab.
Some magic items and vis:
Out in the Aegean, there's a small volcanic rift, inside a regio. It is deep underwater. This yields 4 pawns/year of dedicated vis (RoP:M p. 122) - Creo Ignem, which appears as small rocks that drip with liquid fire. Careful trading of this resource has allowed our Covenant to acquire some very nice books.
To get this, we have enchanted a necklace with a Lungs of the Fish enchantment MuAq 24 Pen 0 (Base 4, +1 Touch, +1 Part, +14 lvls continuous).
There's a two-person boat with a ReAq 30 Pen 0 (Base 4, +1 Touch, +1 Unnatural, +1 Concentration, +1 Maintains Concentration, +5 lvls 24 Uses/day), which controls the water under the boat to flow in the direction that the operator requires. The boat fits within an 'Individual' of water. It can even go upriver, if desired. The boat isn't large enough or strong enough to withstand a full gale, but can travel against a stiff breeze. The boat travels at 20 miles/hour.
This represents 30 BP for the Vis source, 10 BP for the necklace, and 12 for the boat.
I like it.
But wouldn't the vis cost 40 BP? I Thought dedicated vis counted as 2 vis per, which would be effectively 8 vis, which costs 40 BP.
Per page 124, dedicated vis is 1.5 times the BP cost of normal vis.
Ah, I didn't look far enough into RoP:M.
I was still waiting on comments from:
[size=150]Strawberries of Magical Power[/size]
This patch of strawberries grew on the grave of a powerful hedge wizard. Each year in the spring, three overly large and perfect strawberries grow on it that contain Creo vis. The leaves of those berries can be harvested for Corpus vis. This is a cutting of an original plant that is more productive. The plants are kept in a bit of soil that has one of the hedge wizard's leg bones in it. A local legend says that eating the other berries from the patch fresh increases a woman's chance of having a child. And it is reputed that a wine made of older, fermented berries from the patch can prevent pregnancy.
Provides: 3 Cr vis/year and 3 Co vis/year, both in the spring.
Costs 30 BP
[size=150]Skull of the Parted Lover[/size]
Tales tell of a faithful maiden whose true love died while on crusade. The maiden stayed faithful to him and cried for him every night. She died decades ago, but her skull continues to cry for him. On the feast of St. Martin of Tours, the day her lover left for the crusade, her tears contain Mentem vis.
Provides: 3 Me vis/year in the autumn.
Costs 15 BP
I was also going to propose a remote source in the hills outside of Thessaloniki:
[size=150]Cave of Gaia's Tears[/size]
One of the hills outside of Thessaloniki is reputed to be where the titan Gaia came when Ouranos took and swallowed their first child. She was said to have wept bitterly for the loss, and her tears soaked into the hillside. Whether this is true or not is anyone's guess. But in a cave in the hill, beneath where Gaia is supposed to have wept, a stalactite forms at a shocking rate of several inches per year. The stalactite is always covered in water that is reputed to be the remnants of the tears of Gaia, still dripping to this very day.
The stalactite can be harvested once every six months for a pawn of Terram vis (or once a year for two pawns of Te). If the water that drips from the stalactite is collected, it amounts to two pawns of Aq vis per year.
The covenant has sealed off the part of the cave that has the stalactite so that no one will wander in. They have a wand that will open a temporary passage into the cave that the vis can be harvested.
Provides: 2 Te vis/year and 2 Aq vis/year, traditionally harvested in summer.
Costs 20 BP
Wand of the Doorway Through Stone
ReTe 20
R: Touch, D: Mom, T: Part
When this rune-carved wand touches stone and the wielder speaks a command word, up to ten cubic paces of the stone appears to melt and move as the wielder directs. A Finesse check is required to do anything fancy with the stone. The covenant uses this wand to open a doorway into the Cave of Gaia's Tears so that vis can be harvested, and then to seal the cave up again.
(Base 3, +1M Touch, +1M Stone, +1M Part, +1M Size +5 uses/day: 24)
Costs 8 BP
All of these are fine. Sorry i didn't respond earlier.
I'm not seeing how +14 gets you continuous. You can't have a Sun duration, two charges, and a trigger of sunrise and sunset because we don't know that anyone will actually be wearing the thing at sunrise or sunset. Am I missing something?
I would think we'd need unlimited charges (+10), concentration duration (+5), the necklace maintains conc (+5), and environmental trigger: wearing the necklace (+3), for a total of 23 to get something that works whenever someone puts it on. That would make it:
Necklace of Lungs of the Fish
MuAq(Au) 33
Uses/Day: unlimited
Penetration: 0
R: Touch, D: Conc, T: Part
This is a necklace that invokes the power of Lungs of the Fish whenever someone wears it
(Base 4, +1M Touch, +1M Part, +1M Concentration, +5 device maintains conc, +10 unlimited use, +3 environmental trigger: wearing the necklace)
Cost: 14 BP
We could drop it to level 25 if we wanted to give it 24 charges and say you have to speak a command word to use it. But I think the other way is more elegant and only costs 4 more BP.