vis questions

We are preparing to cast several high level ritual spells in our game.

I was wondering what thoughts people had on the vis economy.

Let's say our troupe wants to cast 5 level 60 ritual spells ... and would like to use 60 pawns of a particular form vis (say mentem vis) to do so. How much vis could we possibily get through trade with redcaps ... and how would this affect the local mentem vis trade. Would it make a difference if we just went to some central point (say Harco) or sent magi
all over to different tribunals to trade? Now, lets say we have been preparing for this ritual for several years .... how much of 1 form of vis could we horde per year and not have severe ripples throughout the order on the vis value of this particular form?

Any thoughts?
Dan

Well, Dan, I think it's all been left pretty vague so far. There aren't any hard and fast "rules" or even "guidelines" (unless Covenants has some).

But really, it's only as big a deal as is dramatically appropriate. By that I mean, if you think it leads onto more stories to have a neighbouring Magus getting a little jealous that your covenant has these contacts willing to trade while none want any part of his business, then bring that in. If, on the other hand, a nearby covenant thinks that your trading could be the beginning of a proper trade-fair and they'd be happy to organise for a small fee, then again, go right ahead.

But let's say, for instance, that your covenant was stockpiling Mentem Vis and the suggestion got around that you were going to use it in some grand ritual... That is more incentive for other Magi than simply the quantity of Vis you have stocked up.

Mark

i suppose that you could go at it from a simulation angle. figure out on average how much vis per year per magus is present in your game, figure out how many magi are in the relevant area (tribunal, order, etc.), and figure out what proportion of all vis is mentem vis. Then multiply these three numbers together and you'll have the annual mentem vis supply for the applicable area.

An aexample

5 pawns per year * 1100 magi in the order * 6% of vis is mentem gives us 330 pawns of mentem vis per year gathered by the entire order. For these criteria you'd want about 18% of the order's annual mentem vis.