Adding Shape/Material bonus to Talisman

Away from books.

Hypothetical: a Mage with a Talisman in the shape/material of a Silver Ring, wants a wand now.

By means (say shrink the wooden wand, thread the ring, allow wand to return to normal) attaches ring to wand so the combined item is now a wooden wand with a silver band.

How does this affect the Talisman?

I think it does nothing, unless you have the Great Talisman Virtue TM:RE page 89

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It has been far too long since I read TMRE, I had forgotten the Great Talisman could also do that.

No, I was remembering that compound items can be invested by enchanting only the the most expensive component of the compound. And the enchantment then fails if any other component of the compound is lost.

In vanilla Hermetic Magic I was wondering what happens to such an item if you add a component rather than lose a component. That info I don’t have in front of me.

From the box on page 89.

…Although a maga may attune an
item with instilled effects (instilled by
herself), she cannot add components to
an existing device, even a talisman. To
allow the most talisman attunements,
she should create and open a compound
item with as many components as her
Magic Theory score permits….

So I think that means it is a no-no, but I could have missed something.

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Yes. I think that barring unusual virtues, you've got a ring talisman stuck through a non-magical piece of wood.

Talisman design appears to be a case where you have to do quite a lot of forward planning.

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Michael and Bob are spot on. Which incidentally means that, concretely, the magi sticking his ring Talisman on a wooden stick is no longer touching his Talisman when he walks arround with it like that.

Unless of course they is holding the wand and touching the ring with their bare hand.

But there doesn't seem to be any tactical advantage to that.

Perhaps fool your enemies as to the identity of your Talisman before putting ring back on finger (or if paranoid, toe in shoe)