Book Trades

So, Lucas is going around the Provencal Tribunal in Autumn of 1238, and is going around the Iberian Tribunal in Spring of 1241, partly for diplomacy, but also partly for trading books. Based on the wiki, I see that we have duplicate copies of the following books:

ARTS
1 copy of "On Transmutation," Muto Summa Level 12, Quality 13
1 copy of "To Command!" Rego Summa: Level 13, Quality 11
1 copy of "Riddles of Mars," Ignem Summa: Level 11, Quality 14

ABILITIES
1 copy of "De Oratore ad Quintum fratrem libri tres," Artes Liberales Summa: Level 8, Quality 14
1 copy of "Elementia," Artes Liberales Summa: Level 4, Quality 8
1 copy of "Physics," Philsophiae Summa: Level 8, Quality 14
1 copy of "Ultor (The Avenger)," Penetration Summa: Level 5, Quality 11
1 Copy of "Catalogue of Magical Beasts and Beings," Magic Lore Summa: Level 3, Quality 9

I didn't count the Magic Theory books as for trade because I know we're trying to build those up for training.

I believe that there will be more books copied by the students. So I wanted to open up a thread to track what books we have for trade, what books we want for trade, and what books we can actually get.

Anyone have thoughts on what should be on our wish list?

CURRENT WISH LIST

  • Intelligo Su (better than Quality 10)
  • Rego Tr (multiple, if possible)
  • Animal Su (better than Quality 10)
  • Aquum Su (better than Quality 10)
  • Corpus Su (better than Quality 10)
  • Imaginem Su (better than Quality 10)
  • Mentem Su (better than Quality 11)
  • Any Art but Au, Te, and Vi (Quality 15+)
  • Any Art Tr (Quality 11+)
  • Parma Magica Su (better than Quality 10)
  • Second Sight Su or Tr
  • Charm Su
  • Etiquette Su
  • Intrigue Su
  • Leadership Su
  • Teaching Su
  • Spell: MuVi20 Wizard's Reach (Mentem)
  • Spell: ReVi50r Aegis of the Hearth
  • Spell: InVi20 Numbness of the Gift
  • Spell: InVi20 Piercing the Faerie Veil
  • Spell: InVi20 Piercing the Infernal Veil
  • Spell: InVi20 Piercing the Magical Veil
  • Spell: ReMe40 The Face in the Mirror
  • Spell: InAu20 Sailor’s Foretaste of the Morrow
  • Spell: ReIm30 Image from the Wizard Torn
  • Spell: InVi20 Numbness of the Gift
  • Spell: PeVi30r Disenchant
  • Spell: PeVi30 Unraveling the Fabric of Vim
  • Spell: PeVi20 Unraveling the Fabric of Herbam
  • Spell: PeVi20 Unraveling the Fabric of Ignem
  • Spell: PeVi20 Unraveling the Fabric of Terram
  • Spell: ReVi15 Gather the Essence of the Beast
  • Spell Mastery Tr for popular spells

I would like higher quality texts in the following areas (all are currently at 10):
aquum
corpus
Imaganem

Ideally but not as important:
parma magica

I'd also like a summae in leadership

Those all sound like great books to try and get.

There are several spell lab text Carmen desires. Spells fromthe books such as ReVi50r Aegis of the Hearth, InVi20 Numbness of the Gift, and others.
L5+ and Q15+ on Arts, a book or two on Teaching, Code of Hermes, and whatever you feel we lack.
Carmen will spend a season in barcelona copying if it helps.

Marko raises a good question. Do we have any spare copies of lab texts to trade?

We have 27 qp of unspecified lab texts that Adan copied for trading back in 1236.

Lab Texts are not measured in QP. They are measured in Levels. Five Levels has a relative value of 5qp, but a lot depends on who you are making the deal with and what the texts are.

So we can convert from the original and say 25 levels of unspecified lab texts, plus 2qp credit on the redcap network for previous submissions? I say unspecified because Adan was copying for market value, not to copy a specific text...

I've updated my initial post to include a compiled wish list. I think it's better that we have a wish list larger that what we can expect to get, since we don't know what exactly will be available. With a large list we can look at what's available and see if it's something we need. I added some spells and other texts that I thought would be handy based on a review of the library. Anyone should feel free to add to the list if there's something you think is missing.

I is better to post anew than to edit. Makes things easier for those of us who mainly use their phone to read and post :mrgreen:
Carmen's Wish List for spells includes...
InAu20 Sailor’s Foretaste of the Morrow
ReIm30 Image from the Wizard Torn
InVi20 Numbness of the Gift
PeVi30r Disenchant
PeVi30 Unraveling the Fabric of Vim
ReVi50r Aegis of the Hearth

Note that I made this list based on what she can copy herself in a Season.

Arachné would like some Rego Tractatii. If she's going to progress beyond her current level, she'll need lots of them.

As a compromise, I'm posting the current wish list here, and updating the wish list in the first post. Feel free to reference either one.

CURRENT WISH LIST

  • Intelligo Su (better than Quality 10)
  • Rego Tr (multiple, if possible)
  • Animal Su (better than Quality 10)
  • Aquum Su (better than Quality 10)
  • Corpus Su (better than Quality 10)
  • Imaginem Su (better than Quality 10)
  • Mentem Su (better than Quality 11)
  • Any Art but Au, Te, and Vi (Quality 15+)
  • Any Art Tr (Quality 11+)
  • Parma Magica Su (better than Quality 10)
  • Second Sight Su or Tr
  • Charm Su
  • Etiquette Su
  • Intrigue Su
  • Leadership Su
  • Teaching Su
  • Spell: MuVi20 Wizard's Reach (Mentem)
  • Spell: ReVi50r Aegis of the Hearth
  • Spell: InVi20 Numbness of the Gift
  • Spell: InVi20 Piercing the Faerie Veil
  • Spell: InVi20 Piercing the Infernal Veil
  • Spell: InVi20 Piercing the Magical Veil
  • Spell: InAu20 Sailor’s Foretaste of the Morrow
  • Spell: ReIm30 Image from the Wizard Torn
  • Spell: InVi20 Numbness of the Gift
  • Spell: PeVi30r Disenchant
  • Spell: PeVi30 Unraveling the Fabric of Vim
  • Spell: PeVi20 Unraveling the Fabric of Herbam
  • Spell: PeVi20 Unraveling the Fabric of Ignem
  • Spell: PeVi20 Unraveling the Fabric of Terram
  • Spell: ReVi15 Gather the Essence of the Beast
  • Spell Mastery Tr for popular spells

lets just add any arts tractus with quality above 11 you happen to come across.

Add a spell: ReMe 40 The Face in the Mirror.
We might need to negociate with Tremere Magi for this.

Okay, so we have the two things we need to start: (1) a list of what we have to trade; and (2) a list of what we'd like to trade for. All we need now is a list of what's available on the other side for trade. Any chance we could find what Provincal and Iberia have for trade?

Also, I wanted to make another call for anyone to provide copies of books for trade or copies of spells for trade.

So, Lucas had a couple of scribes on his payroll when he was in Majorca. I finally figured out what they scribed:

[strike]Summae
De Oratore ad Quintum fratrem libri tres, Artes Liberales L8/Q14 (x2)
Physics, Philosophiae L8/Q14 (x2)
Corpus Hermeticum, Magic Theory L8/Q12
A Delicate Matter, Finesse L8/Q14
Ultor (The Avenger), Penetration L5/Q11
Correlations and Expansions, Code of Hermes L5/Q15
History of the Order of Hermes, Order of Hermes Lore L5/Q15
Historia Hermetica, Order of Hermes Lore L6/Q13
The Merchant's Art, Bargain L4/Q12
Principles of Magic, Magic Theory L4/Q10
Catalogue of Magical Beasts and Beings, Magic Lore L3/Q9

Tractatus (all -1 Quality for being fast copied)
Metephysica I & III, Philosophiae Q11 (x3)
Lecito and Disputiatio, Teaching Q13 (x3)
El Poema de mio Cid, Area Lore: Iberia Q10 (x3)
The Flambeau Apocrypha, Order of Hermes Lore Q10 (x3)
The Accurate Eye, Finesse Q10 (x3)
In Consideration of Hipocrates and the Art of Corpus, Medicine Q10 (x3)
The Centurion's Burden, Leadership Q9 (x3)[/strike]
These are all available for trade. Granted, they're all books on Abilities. But there were Abilities on our wish list.

Are those the scribes that Marko said had been hired and were available for use by the library?

Quite possibly. Two scribes in Majorca?

If you assigned them to do copying, that's fine. I can drop my list. But it seems like the list of copies we have is too short. Are there more I don't have on my list?

I wasn't sure of number or status, so I only assigned 1 to copying. Also nobody I assigned did any fast copying...

I assumed basic scribes with Profession: Scribe 5 and no Magical Theory.

If you've assigned one of them scribing duties, that's fine. I just wanted to make sure they didn't get forgotten. Do you want to assign the other one or shall I?

Also, have you a list of what books are available for trade in Autumn 1238 and in Spring 1241? I was hoping to move forward and get to some of the actual book trading to see what we can get.