Gift of Vigor and Familiars?

[Berengar]

@The Fixer

@One Shot

The ways closest to RAW woud be, to agree with your troupe that certain people have a Supernatural virtue "Laying on Hands" allowing them to bestow their own fatigue points on others, and that certain magical animals with an ability like this virtue are eligible as familiars. This should cover all campaign needs for NPC abilities.

Oh, this is simple. All you need is a greater/lesser power, with 0 might cost if it's a version that costs fatigue.

Now, I wouldn't be adverse at making this a standard abilities for familiars, mind you.

Show your troupe the story of Farrago in HoH:MC p.89f, and then discuss with them a new Cord and how to research it?

Cheers

[The_Fixer]

One Shot: Yes, this seems the way

Not that this interest my current magi. A previous one, sure

@Vespasian

@Marko Markoko

His next research project may take a Breakthrough, transfering wounds to the slaves, er, devotees.

Easy!
Just look at the guidelines for Incantation/Consumption, RoP: I, p. 105

Ah Ah Ah! Awesome!

I love it when the answer to something is "look at the infernal", this is great!

[Tugdual]

Energy Magic (HMRE p51-2) does not transfer but creates energy. That approach might be more interesting than using grogs as batteries.

[gerg]

@kingreaper

@Kid Gloves

However, the base effect that GoV is built on is simply 'transfers bodily energy' with no commentary on from whom and to whom.

I've checked: That base effect isn't in the book. It doesn't actually exist as a base effect.

And your ruling clearly contradicts the book: "Magi have long looked for a way to restore their energy in order to cast more spells. This is the closest they've come."

Were it as simple as using the same guideline to make a "Theft of Vigor" spell, they'd have done it by now.

Now, houserules are fine. But the idea that magi can drain energy from others is not in the rules, and is an amazingly potent ability to give them.

Regarding the base effect, I think the base effect that Gift of Vigor is built on is the conveniently vague "Direct the flow of bodily energy" (compare to the first line of the spell description).
Otherwise I agree with you.

I definitely would allow Gift of Vigor to be enchanted into the familiar bond (either way) and controlled by the other member of the pair. It just makes so much sense from a story perspective!

[ezzelino]

@gerg

Regarding the base effect, I think the base effect that Gift of Vigor is built on is the conveniently vague "Direct the flow of bodily energy" (compare to the first line of the spell description).
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I definitely would allow Gift of Vigor to be enchanted into the familiar bond (either way) and controlled by the other member of the pair. It just [u]makes so much sense[/i] from a story perspective!

I agree with gerg. I would point out that the ability to transfer fatigue between magus and familiar was a standard familiar power in previous editions (where Gift of Vigor, with the same "this is the closest..." fluff, was already present).