Guiverna ex Miscellanea - Development

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

@Trogdor

@Peregrine_Bjornaer

Highly Organized (Free Outfittings): General Quality +1.

Is that a Virtue we can just declare we have in a new lab? I thought you needed to get it through Refinement.

@Prince of Boredom

Yeah, I was pretty sure you had to refine and then make a roll of some sort to get Highly Organized and Spotless.

My assumption was that you could build a lab with the Highly Organized Virtue (since the description doesn't say otherwise), and that you could "accidentally" gain it when you increase the lab's Refinement.

[Prince_of_Boredom]

Hmm, that's an interesting interpretation. I'd like to get a troupe ruling on that, since that will affect Acutus' lab as well.

[Trogdor]

It will effect Lucas's lab too.

As much as I'd like Highly Organized to be a Virtue you could take at the start, I tend to think that te intent of the rules is to limit it as a benefit of Refinement.

[silveroak]

Since you can gain or lose it whenever you do refinement I'd say let them roll for it if they want when they set up the lab initially the same as when they refine the lab. They also take the same risk of flaws with that though...

[Trogdor]

@silveroak

Since you can gain or lose it whenever you do refinement I'd say let them roll for it if they want when they set up the lab initially the same as when they refine the lab. They also take the same risk of flaws with that though...

That's a great compromise.

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

@silveroak

Since you can gain or lose it whenever you do refinement I'd say let them roll for it if they want when they set up the lab initially the same as when they refine the lab. They also take the same risk of flaws with that though...

Fair enough. And since Invisible Castle is still down...again grumble...I'll try this CoyoteCode thingie.

Int 1 + Magic Theory 4 + (die roll of 1, followed by a die roll of 2) 4 = 9. This seems like a good time to try Fortune...except Fortune can't be used for seasonal activities. Ah, well.

erase erase erase

[The_Fixer]

I've copy-pasted the previous sheet on the wiki, could you update any change?

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

@The Fixer

I've copy-pasted the previous sheet on the wiki, could you update any change?

D'accord, mon ami.

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

First draft of Guiverna's advancement plans to take her through Autumn of 1241. Written in very light pencil, barring whatever Arachné comes up with for her, and any other ideas other magi may have for covenant service (and, not incidentally, ways for her to get Vis), and if I change my mind and decide to Bind Semsuhfaw using Perdo instead of Muto. Or just have an "Oooh shiny!" moment or three.

[table][tr][th]Season[/th]
[th]Activity[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Autumn 1236[/td]
[td]Searching for a regio with Horus[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Winter 1237[/td]
[td]Building her lab (to basic)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Winter 1237 (Aging Roll)[/td]
[td]Die roll of 3 + age 4 – LC Mod 2 – LR Mod 13 = -8. No apparent aging.[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Spring 1237[/td]
[td]Improving her lab (to standard)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Summer 1237[/td]
[td]Learn Occitan (Catalan) from Bashir[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Autumn 1237[/td]
[td]Study Dominion Over God’s Creatures (Animal summa)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Winter 1238[/td]
[td]tbd[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Winter 1238 (Aging Roll)[/td]
[td]Aging Roll: Die roll of 8 + age 4 – LC Mod 2 – LR Mod 13 = -3. No apparent aging.[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Spring 1238[/td]
[td]Study Dominion Over God’s Creatures (Animal summa)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Summer 1238[/td]
[td]Enchant her Ankh with Charm Against Putrefaction[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Autumn 1238[/td]
[td]Study Dominion Over God’s Creatures (Animal summa)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Winter 1239[/td]
[td]Study On Transmutation (Muto summa)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Winter 1239 (Aging Roll)[/td]
[td]Aging Roll: Die roll of 8 + age 4 – LC Mod 2 – LR Mod 13 = -3. No apparent aging.[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Spring 1239[/td]
[td]Study On Transmutation (Muto summa)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Summer 1239[/td]
[td]Writing Lab Texts[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Autumn 1239[/td]
[td]Study On Transmutation (Muto summa)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Winter 1240[/td]
[td]Exploring regio with Horus[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Winter 1240 (Aging Roll)[/td]
[td]die roll of 0 + age 4 – LC Mod 2 – LR Mod 13 = -11. No apparent aging.[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Spring 1240[/td]
[td]Bind Semsuhfaw as her Familiar
Lab Total: 30
Golden Cord: 2; Silver Cord 0; Bronze Cord 2.[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Summer 1240[/td]
[td]Adventure: Journey to Waddenzee[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Autumn 1240[/td]
[td]tbd[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Winter 1241[/td]
[td]Study Corpus Hermeticum (Magic Theory summa)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Winter 1241 (Aging Roll)[/td]
[td]die roll of 6 + age 4 – LC Mod 2 – LR Mod 13 -Cord 2 = -7. No apparent aging.[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Spring 1241[/td]
[td]tbd[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Summer 1241[/td]
[td]tbd[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Autumn 1241[/td]
[td]tbd[/td][/tr][/table]

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

(moved from the Chapter 4 thread, as here seems more appropriate)

@silveroak

Actually, the Regio Virtue for the lab is required for all labs, as is the Thoroughfare Flaw.

the lab virtue and the covenant virtue are not the same. She seems to have been taking the covenant virtue instead of the lab virtue.

No, they're not. But they're both required. One for the regio and one for the lab. "Each location must include Regio as a Minor Boon or Minor or Free Hook. For their Labs, they must choose the Virtues of Regio and Gateway, plus the Flaw of Thoroughfare."

Each location must include Regio. And the lab must choose Regio virtue.

Unless I'm totally reading that wrong, and that they're not two separate and independent clauses.

@Prince of Boredom

One note, I think you took the Regio boon from covenants, but that's not the one you should take. You need to take one of these from the Sa Dragonera House Rules:

+1 Controlled Regio
You are able to control acces to your regio from either direction, nd do not take the Thoroughfare Flaw for your Lab.

-0 Partially Controlled Regio
You have limited control over access to your regio. This means you can control or limit access from one direction but cannot control the other, or you generally have control over either direction but there are always minor holes in security.

-1 Uncontrolled Regio:
You have no control over access to your regio from either direction. At the very least it can be navigated by Second Sight or other appropriate magic. There are other uncontrollable means of entry; such as a specific short time every day or longer frequencies at longer intervals, by any one of a certain description or engaged in a certain activity, or by walking a certain path or accessing a certain landmark. You might be able to restrict &/or observe a few, but here are just as many means of entry that you do not know and cannot control. Whatever these may be, everyone in the chapter knows at least one, and those who study the magical folklore of your area may learn them (say, an appropriate Lore roll of 12+).

From your description, the Partially Controlled Regio option sounds correct. If you go with that, by my count you still have 2 more boon points to spend.

Okay. I'll make the change on the wiki. And I'll try to come up with two more Boon points to burn.

[The_Fixer]

@Peregrine_Bjornaer

Written in very light pencil, barring whatever Arachné comes up with for her

Oh, yes, I'll have to think about this.

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

@The Fixer

@Peregrine_Bjornaer

Written in very light pencil, barring whatever Arachné comes up with for her

Oh, yes, I'll have to think about this.

Feel free to come up with more just the one or two seasons (and if anyone else has anything they would like her help with, chime in). I'm thinking about redoing her schedule to leave a couple more open seasons and work on her Perdo rather than Muto for Binding Semsuhfaw (since an adder would be Perdo and not Muto).

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

@Prince of Boredom

I think so. So my understanding is that you're NOT counting the house owned by Ramon as part of her "quarter", correct? Assuming that is the case, her quarter resides completely within the regio (much like Acutus'). One thing to note, the entire regio has a Magic aura of at least 1 by definition (you can't have a regio without an aura). Now, you can choose to have all of the regio at aura 3 (essentially meaning there is only one layer to the regio), or have the outermost area be a 1 or a 2, with the lab sitting in another, "deeper" regio at aura 3. And it's in this deeper regio that the connection to the Sa Dragonera "hub" is.

Don't know how I missed this first paragraph last night. (I'm blaming it on my brain fog.)

But, yes, Ramon's townhouse isn't part of the regio. It is completely mundane, except for the wide crack/tunnel in the basement (which looks absolutely nothing like this, although now I can't get past the sound of "Prisoner Zero has escaped" echoing across her regio.).

So...how's this:

• Ramon's townhouse and the basement are mundane, with an Aura of 0.
• The tunnel, from the entrance in the basement wall to the exit in the bluff in Guiverna's Regio, is a small Regio[strike]aligned with Muto, as it is[/strike] constantly changing size (both width and length).
• Guiverna's Regio itself is an Aura 2 regio, aligned with Corpus.
• Guiverna's Laboratory is an Aura 3 regio, also aligned with Corpus, and connects with the Nexus.

[silveroak]

Are you taking the virtue for art alignment twice or once?

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

@silveroak

Are you taking the virtue for art alignment twice or once?

I had actually just thrown that in there for flavor text (since the variably-sized tunnel was how I imagined it from the beginning). Not sure if I can take a Boon for it, since the Variable Aura only says Forms and not Techniques, but I would like to since I have a Personal Boon Point to spare.

[silveroak]

ROP:M has a minor virtue for an aura aligning with one of the arts, which to me would include a technique.

[Marko_Markoko]

Interesting. But you are still limited to the Sa Dragonera HR's. Which I have not reviewed in a while. I will read up on them tonight.
So that I may address the proper question, what are the issues at hand here?

[Prince_of_Boredom]

Personally I don't think Guiverna needs to take another boon for it as long as it's purely for fluff.

I think SIlveroak's point is that you've basically taken two different aligned auras; Muto for the tunnel and Corpus for the lab. In theory that gives you an advantage, because if you wanted to cast a high-level Muto spell you could go into the tunnel, while if you wanted to cast a high-level Corpus spell you could cast it in your sanctum or lab. That gives you more flexibility than the boon is meant to grant.

Make sense?

[silveroak]

she has a multi-leveled region which is her entire sanctum, and is aligning different levels to different arts. I had some concerns about how her region descriptions fit into the mechanics of how Sa Dragonna sanctums/labs work, as well as wondering if she would need to take multiple virtues for multiple levels having multiple allignments.

[Peregrine_Bjornaer]

@Prince of Boredom

Personally I don't think Guiverna needs to take another boon for it as long as it's purely for fluff.

I think SIlveroak's point is that you've basically taken two different aligned auras; Muto for the tunnel and Corpus for the lab. In theory that gives you an advantage, because if you wanted to cast a high-level Muto spell you could go into the tunnel, while if you wanted to cast a high-level Corpus spell you could cast it in your sanctum or lab. That gives you more flexibility than the boon is meant to grant.

Make sense?

Yes, it does. And I can live without it being technically aligned with Muto, as long as it's still variable width and lengh. That's the main thing I was going for, and that was pure flavor-text with no real game-mechanics benefit when I first came up with it.