Library convertion

And I heartily applaud this effort!

Oops! Actually, we don't use these rules anymore either! We thought they were too complicated. My troupe stripped this down to 3 xp per month (when we using the 1st edition system) and now that we're using seasons it is a straight 9 xp per season.

Correct, except we stuck with the 1 xp/month or 3 xp/season for Knowledges, including Magic Theory. Talents and Skills can only be advanced with experience (yearly and/or story), and Skills can be raised via training under someone of superior skill as well.

Not sure what you mean here. We don't roll for being diligent, so if that's in 3rd ed. then we laid it by the wayside as well. Yearly experience had to be justified somehow, as long as it was plausible. E.g., in order to put an xp into Certamen (y'all still have that?) you had to convince another mage in the covenant to practice with you during your fortnight of downtime.

I agree emphatically! One of my most cherished activities when I get to create a saga is coming up with the names and authors and histories of the library. The last saga I ran began with a massive library (it was a winter covenant) that in the course of the first couple stories was purloined by an elder magus (there was some murder as well). Recovering these tomes, book by book, sometimes not in such good condition, made for some good stories and it created a whole new level of value to the players.

I had to pull a copy of a third ed book off the shelf last night to refresh my memory of the rules and I saw the diligence roll at that point, I could be mistaken it was late, but I certainly saw something of the sort in there even if I got the specifics wrong.

No, certamen skill got axed in fifth edition. Certamen was reworked to use feature more choices and link in with other skills (parma, penetration, and finesse) instead of a single certamen skill.

Not by all(us).

I love you guys already!

I've recently completed an index of canonical ArM5 books by Ability that has been posted to the Atlas site: ... yIndex.pdf ... bility.php

It does not cover fictional books (ie. books written by Hermetic magi) but covers all the texts in Art & Academe and other ArM5 sources.

I've included a mini-index of all the relevant book rules scattered through the line so far.

Comments welcome!



Excellent and Awesome :smiley:

Wow! That's great work, thanks a lot! :smiley:

Thanks. I hope people find it useful. Let me know of any errata you pick up:



I find it useful :slight_smile:

Thank you very much !

Wonderful work, Jarkman!

Has anybody done the same for the 15 magical Arts?

There's not actually that many "official" books on the Arts IIRC, at least not in the format of Author / Title etc when I looked through the texts.

I was focusing on Abilities and in particular "real world" books for a character concept and Sub Rosa article idea.

I think L&L had the most and Covenants references the Roots / Branches etc. There may have been a few in GotF.

HoH:S Flambeau section had some written by Elaine, Flambeau's apprentice.

I'll see if I can dig this up but I'm a bit busy at the moment.

The ArM4 Index had a list of books I think in it that would be easy enough to convert.

Otherwise, the various Saga / covenant sites have lots of unofficial books.