Novgorod

Huh, I guess there's "Nizhny Novgorod" which is what I thought was the city of Novgorod looking at google maps and it's where the Volga and Oka rivers meet.

There is Veliky Novgorod West of Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod to the east...

Could we push it to the Caspian Sea? I was originally thinking of that for my covenant idea, though it works in the Black Sea too.

@silveroak thoughts?

Veliky Novgorod is more likely the Novgord we think of as the center of the Novgorodian Rus, the center of Russian ancestor-kingdoms in I think the 7-th or 8-th century before the Kievan and Muscovite periods. Around 1200 Kievan Rus is the powerhouse. Need to refresh my medieval Russian History.

Caspian sea would be an extra 400 miles east, or 2/3 the currently defined width of the effective tribunal, and well beyond where the order would be in 1202.

I'm going to look into some things regarding second sight...

Looked into the Muspelli, while they do have sensitivities, they do not have anything that specifies sight the way second sight does partnered with blind. I'm going to disallow second sight with Blind- you have to have first sight to have second sight. You can take other sensitivity advantages that are not specifically sight based...

Since @loke 's idea seems exactly the sort of place I would want to place my Novgorodian Magus I think I'll probably forgo creating my own covenant.

George, feel free to PM me on discord if you'd like to discuss ideas for the covenant.

I wouldn't mind really not having sight, i.e. Second Sight or Comprehend Magic not using this sense, but the other four. What I wasn't able to convince others was that the results would be equivalent in game mechanics, e.g. finding a regio and finding a way into it.

As there was already another mention of the lineage of pralix though, I'll just drop the idea irrespective of finding an agreement here.

@silveroak does the tribunal boundary extend north and encompass Scandinavia, or just to the east?

@silveroak are we going to build local magi or foreigners. Are they going to be established members of a covenant or still seeking shelter?

Magi can be either local or foreigners- most magi would probably be foreigners who have entered Novgorod for vis or research, but natives can exist, but unlike Hibernia there is no real conflict, in part because there is simply too many natural resources to be worth a conflict.
The tribunal extends North as far as you wish in theory, in practice lets keep covenants within 600 miles of the Rhine border- there is no reason anyone would have established a covenant further away than that in 1202.

In terms of age for magi are we limiting it to Gauntlet + up to 7 years still or is the allowed post-gauntlet time later due to Novgorod opening in 1202?

build points will be 2000 for covenants, unless the covenant is too young under the build rules from Covenants. Points in specialists are limited to 150, and books are limited to 250 points.

I don't forsee a ton of questions for my Lineage of Pralix at Flåm but could you create a page for him, Silveroak?
Illugi ex Miscellanea

Speaking of which, I have started fiddling with a draft for Balder of Bonisagus, but I am not sure if I should make him native or immigrant. That depends a little on the other magi there ...

What are you planning, @dc444 and @nadimsuer?

I was thinking of making my magus native, possibly even from the local village at Flåm, but his master was an immigrant founder.

not sure what you are asking me to do- if you click on the link you added it will create the page for your magus for you to edit...

I can create a page in the wiki but not here. I would like a forum thrhread so all my quedtions about the character are in one place.

okay, understood and done- not used to calling threads pages