OOC: General

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@IonianD

You do have a point about books, I always filed them under a different standard, like practice. Look if this is a problem we can just go and use training for every skill. What do people think?

FYI. I did a search to find this thread: Training as a Magi
It seems that both opinions exist ...

Romaic Greek 5 specialty Church Greek is sufficient then? Score 6 only helps with Classic Greek? If the answer is yes, then I have finally understood it.

Sufficient for what?
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Sufficient to write a book in Church Greek.

What are you trying to have the character do? Romaic/Classical Greek 5 = you can read Church documents. Romaic/Classical 6 = you can read Classical/Romaic documents. Romaic/Classical 6 does not allow you to write in church nor classical/romaic (theoretical you can with 7. However I never seen anyone have a language of over 7, not sure if rules allow it.

Abilities are unbounded, and in Cov you can buy a summa on Latin in Greek (or vice versa) at level 8. Somebody must have had 16 in the language to write that.

OK. So now you are saying that by raising Romaic Greek to 7, I can write Classical Greek, just when we had agree that I could not!? But not Church Greek, cannot be written without the speciality, not even with Romaic Greek 16!?

Originally, I wanted to be able to read all flavours of Greek, and at some point learn enough to write all flavours too.
Therefore I started with Romaic Greek 6. It takes less effort to get to 7 in one language, than to get to 5 in two.
That was in line with how I understood the rules at the time. I did not think of the need to teach Classical Greek,
which would of course be very valuable to the covenant.

If I can write Classic with Romaic 7, but not teach Classic, then I get confused again. Writing it, surely one needs to know the details of vocabulary and grammar in far more detail than you need to teach the basics.

Now, I am quite happy to accept what I cannot do, I just want to know what I can do, and what I can learn to do within reasonable time. If Classical and Romaic Greek are totally unrelated when it comes to writing and teaching, it is fine, I can give those up. Nobody can do everything, and Georgios is quite versatile already. If they are related, I may very well invest the time to raise Romaic Greek to 7 or 8 in order to write (or even translate) Classical Greek. I just want to know.

Yes, AM5 pg 103 states that only gifted help can contribute to lab work (it also mentions familiars further along, but cant find any specifics about them helping in that part). Somehow this issue about ungifted grogs setting up labs became a fad....

Of course. It is not obvious, and rather counter-intuitive, that an ungifted grog can build labs. And building labs is bloody time consuming if you want a few special features. Once you discover that the rules actually allow ungifted grogs to do it, the benefit is huge. Same goes for ungifted scribes to copy arcane books. And of course, when there is a dispute over every aspect of learning, teaching, and using Magic Theory, it becomes a fad in every possible way.