The forum is very slow for me too.
It's been slow for me the past couple of days.
Viola has to take care of Chryse before the lab, I think. It looks like she'll need two seasons of study to up her lab total to 40, and with the opening, that's a total of three seasons, plus one to learn the Aegis. So she'd be ready for the finale in Winter 1230, I think?
Scott
I don't think CP's are supposed to regenerate as a matter of course--she spent the points and they're gone, but she was sitting on a pile of them, so that's fine.
You can't take Exposure on top of Story XP's, but we have been allowing two Story sources in one seasons to add up.
Scott
Given we have a time jump imminent is it worth ordering some mundane books from the redcaps or local booksellers so they are available once we restart? I was thinking Artes Liberales and Philosophae at least, using the examples in Arts and Academy? It would need to be a members vote to spend covenant money so no input from us newbies.
Gregorius is probably only going to go for that if there's a strong interest in having them (particularly from members of the covenant, although widespread interest from visitors might be enough as well) - with the faerie toys income source set up, we're more or less breaking even, but don't have much of a surplus in our income, so whilst 1 pound of silver a book is tenable, it's not something he wants to do casually or in bulk. He's already arranged to acquire a Leadership text, but doesn't have much personal interest in Artes Liberales or Philosophaie.
Found this post (Seasonal Activities and Advancement - #252 by MTKnife), although the post tribunal advancement will obviously be superseded. My understanding is that Viola's posted stats currently exclude the Spring, Summer and Autumn 1228 advancement, so at the end of Autumn 1228 she actually has a Vim score of 6 rather than 5.
So she has enough now to learn the Aegis immediately if she wants to (Int +4 + Magic Theory 8 + Aura 5 + Lab General Quality 8 + Rego 9 + Vim 6 = 40), but her Intellego is only 6 compared to 9, so she needs another three points to be able to Open Chryse's Arts. With Book Learner and Study Bonus, and a base book quality of 12, she's getting 17 xp per season, so she can go from Vim 6 -> Vim 10 in two seasons, which is enough.
Presumably she'll learn the Aegis in Winter 1228 (as spending the time on Chryse first will mean we have a period without an Aegis). She had been planning to spend a season mastering the Aegis of the Hearth so she's not casting it with 6 botch dice - is she dropping that plan due to the competition for her time?
In summary, I agree she'll be ready by Winter 1230 if she doesn't master the Aegis, but it'll be Spring 1230 if she does. Either date gives about a year for the song to be spread, which is probably long enough for that aspect of the plan.
I suggest we buy:
Ars Grammatica by Donatus, Artes Liberales summa Level 4 Quality 15 and Artes Liberales tractates Quality 12 in Latin.
The City of God by St. Augustine of Hippo, Divine Lore summa Level 4 Quality 10, Philosophae summa Level 6 Quality 10 and Theology summa Level 6 Quality 10 in Latin.
Both are noted as in use in the curricula of cathedral schools and universities so should be readily available for purchase.
For Timaios, I'm definitely spending a season to get a level of Ride. I'm trying to figure out which books to read so that I'm not clashing with someone else.
I also need to know if Viola wants a season spent training her apprentice in Magic Theory, as I can get her a good chunk of xp in one season and Timaios is willing to do it in exchange for a minor future favor (and is willing to determine the parameters of that favor in advance, so no "you will owe me and some day I will call in a terrible favor..." business).
Has Chryse's stat sheet been put up yet so I can start playing her?
I think Viola wants to teach Chryse herself first--and anyway, she needs to learn Latin--but in a couple of years, sure.
Scott
I was expecting you to stat her (subject to the parameters I pm'ed you with a while back - let me know if you need me to resend or have any questions).
Sorry, must've gotten mixed up! I'll get to work on that straightaway.
Meanwhile here's Timaios' timetable:
Autumn 1228: Read "Analyzing Vim" summa (L15/Q12) => total 18 xp, Vim level 5
Winter 1229: Read "Analyzing Vim" summa (L15/Q12) => total 30 xp, Vim level 7
Spring 1229: Learn Ride (5 xp)
Summer 1229: Read "Leaf and Branch" summa (L12/Q14) => total 14 xp, Herbam level 4
Autumn 1229: Read "Leaf and Branch" summa (L12/Q14) => total 28 xp, Herbam level 7
Winter 1230: Practice casting "Frosty Breath of the Spoken Lie" (5 xp) => mastery level 1, Penetration
Spring 1230: Read "Winged Creatures" summa (L15/Q8) => total 8 xp, Animal level 3
Summer 1230: Practice casting "Wielding the Invisible Sling" (5 xp) => mastery level 1, Fast Casting
My goal here is to get the rudiments of riding skill, and shore up some of my missing Arts that may be useful in the wilderness. If you folks think there's a better path to take, don't hesitate to let me know!
I don't know if it changes your choices but we are only getting 2/3rds of the Autumn 1228 season XP as we attended tribunal, so 8XP rather than 12XP?
[size=150]Thought this may be useful to track any of us wanting the same resource at the same time.[/size]
[tableborder][tr][th]Magus[/th]
[th]Autumn 1228[/th]
[th]Winter 1229[/th]
[th]Spring 1229[/th]
[th]Summer 1229[/th]
[th]Autumn 1229[/th]
[th]Winter 1230[/th]
[th]Spring 1230[/th]
[th]Summer 1230[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Gregorius[/td]
[td]Read The Senses and Sensibility, Mentem summa, 2/3rd season, 11XP[/td]
[td]Read The Gallic Wars, Leadership summae, 13xp[/td]
[td]Set up lab, Magic Theory, 2xp[/td]
[td]Read The Senses and Sensibility, Mentem summa, 16xp[/td]
[td]Read The Senses and Sensibility, Mentem summa, 16xp[/td]
[td]Read Discipline and Restraint, Rego summa, 15xp[/td]
[td]Set up lab, Magic Theory, 2xp[/td]
[td]Read Discipline and Restraint, Rego summa, 15xp[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Fray[/td]
[td]Read Blood and Tears, Corpus summa, 14xp[/td]
[td]Enchant Talisman, +2xp in Magic Theory[/td]
[td]Invent Profound Magnification of the Beast MuAn 20 and Hand of the Clumsy Beast MuAn(Co) 10, +2xp in Magic Theory[/td]
[td]Read Blood and Tears, Corpus summa, 14xp[/td]
[td]Learn Leap of Homecoming from lab text[/td]
[td]Read Analysing Vis, Vim summa, 12xp[/td]
[td]Read Roots of Aquam, 15xp[/td]
[td]Invent Submerge the Irritating Hovel MuTe(Aq) 20, +2xp in Magic Theory[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Wishbone[/td]
[td]Read Shield of the Order, Parma summa, 2/3rds of a season 8xp[/td]
[td]Read Shield of the Order, Parma summa, 11xp[/td]
[td]Read Shield of the Order, Parma summa, 11xp[/td]
[td]Read Discipline and Restraint, Rego summa, 15xp[/td]
[td]Read Discipline and Restraint, Rego summa, 15xp[/td]
[td]Read Blood and Tears, Corpus summa, 14xp[/td]
[td]Read Discipline and Restraint, Rego summa, 15xp[/td]
[td]Read Blood and Tears Corpus summa, 14xp[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Timaios[/td]
[td]Read Analyzing Vim, Vim summa, 2/3rds of a season, 8xp[/td]
[td]Read Analyzing Vim, Vim summa, 12xp[/td]
[td]Practice riding, 5xp[/td]
[[td]Read Leaf and Branch, Herbam summa, 14xp[/td]
[td]Read Leaf and Branch, Herbam summa, 14xp[/td]
[td]Practice casting "Frosty breath of the spoken lie", 5xp Mastery 1 (Penetration)[/td]
[td]Read Winged Creatures, Animal summa, 8xp[/td]
[td]Practice casting "Wielding the Invisible Sling", 5xp Mastery 1 (Fast Casting)[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Asena[/td]
[td]Practice in Romaic Greek 2/3 time, 5xp[/td]
[td]Set up lab, 2xp in Magic Theory[/td]
[td]Set up lab, 2xp in Magic Theory[/td]
[td]Read Insight within Insight Intellego summa, 12xp[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]Read Shield of the Order, Parma summa, 11xp[/td]
[td]Read In the Laboratory, Magic Theory tractatus, 11xp[/td]
[td]Read Follow the Breeze, Auram tractatus, 12xp[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Viola[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td][/tr][/tableborder]
[size=150]Correspondence[/size]
[tableborder][tr][th]Magus[/th]
[th]Autumn 1228[/th]
[th]Winter 1229[/th]
[th]Spring 1229[/th]
[th]Summer 1229[/th]
[th]Autumn 1229[/th]
[th]Winter 1230[/th]
[th]Spring 1230[/th]
[th]Summer 1230[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Gregorius[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]+1 MT with Sylvanus[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]+1 MT with Sylvanus[/td]
[td][/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Fray[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Wishbone[/td]
[td]None[/td]
[td]None[/td]
[td]None[/td]
[td]Rego with Theosignem ex Flambau of Polyaigos covenant (invented magus), +1xp Rego[/td]
[td]Rego with Theosignem ex Flambau, +1xp Rego[/td]
[td]Rego with Theosignem ex Flambau, +1xp Rego[/td]
[td]Rego with Theosignem ex Flambau, +1xp Rego[/td]
[td]Rego with Theosignem ex Flambau, +1xp Rego[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Timaios[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Asena[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Viola[/td]
[td][/td]
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[td][/td]
[td][/td]
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[td][/td][/tr][/tableborder]
Your charts really make things easier. Thanks!
Your welcome. It helps my need to create order. 
Note that the title is technically Analysing Vis rather than Vim. I did at first think you were going to have clashes over the Vim book with Viola, but actually I think you're probably safe - she's definitely away for Autumn 1228, and probably learning the Aegis in Winter 1229.
You can get slightly more than 5xp in Ride assuming you are getting a grog to teach you (for example, Damianos can give you 8xp). Timaios speaks Greek, so there shouldn't be any langauge issues. If you're just practicing on your own it would only be 4xp.
I'd forgotten we didn't have any Aquam books. I'd probably have recommended focussing on your strengths so that you can do a few things well - that tends to be more useful than being a weak generalist, especially when working with other magi. Given that, I'd suggest spending more time studying the Intellego Summa, and less on Herbam and Animal?
I'm a little inclined to get Herbam because it has some utility against arrows and spears!
I could see spending a season improving Intellego instead of Animal, though.
At some point in the near future I'll have to improve Creo + Corpus for when I inevitably need a longevity potion.
If you're thinking for the Form bonus, they're likely to be metal tipped in most cases, which would make the relevant Art Terram (Herbam would be useful against things like staves and clubs). Shriek of the Impending Shafts is useful, but will be too high to spont even after the studytime (as will be Repel the Wooden Shafts, which in any case suffers from the problem that you don't want to be repeatedly fatiguingly sponting in combat). I'm not saying the Herbam will be useless, but I wouldn't expect it to be massively useful either.
One spell that I can see being quite useful is Thoughts Within Babble (InMe 25) - we have a labtext in the library, and Gregorius will have finished setting up the extra lab in time for Summer 1230. Ideally it would be paired with some way to actually talk to people.
Don't forget you can pay someone else to make your longevity ritual - that's certainly what Gregorius is planning to do.
I can learn Thoughts Within if that's preferable, but I was thinking more about the possibility of making some kind of pre-emptive defensive spell that warps their wooden hafts to make the weapons useless. Something you cast at a long range. It would have to be researched and made from scratch but the magnitude shouldn't be THAT high.
I have nothing with which to pay someone for a longevity potion, nor do I even have access to the Vis resources to make one, so I'm going to have to prepare for it!
Having seen the posts for Timaios I am going to lose the Rego and add in some spell mastery and Creo. I will also change my correspondence.