Right, he might be too late, but he would have to arrive prepared, hurrying there and dying doesn't do anyone any good.
I have company this weekend so posting will be rare
Couple of rules questions for people, since I have been thinking about much the same thing. (Stultus, in true Tytalus fashion, is going to spend the next few seasons making sure he won't be caught with his pants down like he was in Paris, and I've been trying to figure out the best way to do that.)
Let's say I have a magic item with three effects invested in it. A, B, and C. Effect A has the 'Fast Trigger' modifier. Effects B and C both have the "Linked Trigger" modifier: they activate when Effect A does.
- Round 1 rolls around. I trigger effect A. Can I cast a spell in the same round?
- Do B and C activate in Round 1? Do they both activate in Round 2? Does B activate in Round 2 and C in Round 3?
No, for you can only take one action per round. You might be able to Fast Cast, depending on what mood the SG happens to be in :mrgreen:
A, B, & C would go off simualtaneously I would imagine
So, I had this idea where Fiona needs to talk to the Diocetes about getting a brewer/distiller to help grow the barley and make more whiskey (and maybe sell what little bit Fiona and Paul don't finish off). But then I saw who the Diocetes is and I'm like, "Um...maybe I should wait to see if she's still talking to me."
Wait...Stultus had his pants down and Fiona missed it? Damn!
Not familiar with "Fast Trigger" modifier; where is it and what exactly does it do?
I'm pretty sure that the effects linked to effect A go off the same round that Effect A does.
"Societates", p.33. Effect gains a +3 to its Initiative total... and it's a good thing I re-read it 'cause I thought it was like fast-casting.
In that case, I would say no, because triggering an effect is basically a spell-casting-like action. You might be able to trigger it and do a fast-cast defense, depending.
((It would depend on the ritual, and whether vis is used, and the source of vis used. Corpus vis is really problematic, and probably would make the ritual not "kosher." Creo vis, not collected with pagan rites, and from plants is probably fine.))
Hmmm....ticks off on fingers Apollodorus, who was Rego, that's one. Praxiteles, who was uber in Rego and Terram, as I recall...and since Apollodorus was Rego, that would make him the Exemplar of Terram. That's two.
Has he killed anyone else that we know of that I'm forgetting? Or is there a John Doe out there that we don't know about yet?
Actually, Praxiteles was uber with finesse, but it was entirely legit. ReTe was how he sculpted stone, and his arts were only sufficient to do that. Praxiteles is not an Exemplar of an Art. There are several that are unknown...
So, Praxiteles was a freeby, then. I still think Valerian's a bastard, and Fiona really wants to be there when he gets his.
(( Sorry, JL, I'd have to disagree with you, somewhat. For a Light wound, yes, you're right. But a Medium wound or higher would be considered 'threatening to life and limb', at which point pikkuach nefesh kicks in and almost any other religious consideration, including laws of kashrut, goes by the wayside.
Vis collected with pagan rites would remain problematic. Some Corpus vis would be problematic: anything derived from a human corpse that wasn't gathered with the purpose of healing that specific person would be out. But other sources of Corpus vis would be OK: stinkhorn mushrooms, say, or mandrake plants, or Corpus vis that does not require killing someone to collect it. Corpus vis collected from human-like creatures (ogres or goblins, say) would be a gray area. But as long as the wound/disease is life-threatening, and the gathering of vis did not involve murder, idolatry, or incest, almost anything goes.))
((He would be in trouble in the short term her until we lay up some kosher vis. The Creo is collected from a pagan temple so that is out. The corpus is from a grave.))
I don't agree that a medium or even a heavy wound is dangerous to ife and limb. For one, if I'm going to take off an arm, I'm going to take off the arm and inflict a wound, at the same time. So, if the limb is already lost, it must be magically restored, and therefore it is not prevented. Further, medium and heavy wounds are not life threatening on their own. Only when the character drops to incapacitated does it become life threatening. And at that point, presuming it's Pinhas, may not have the ability to object, and it is something done to him, without his consent, and he has not violated any laws. He may have guilt over it, but that's another thing altogether. He can probably rationalize it away...
Pikuach Nefesh is about what the observant Jew is allowed/required to do to save a life. Of course, it's implicit this includes one's own life. And if it came down to it, I could envision incapacitated meaning something like unable to do something, not completely unconscious, and he could give consent to whatever means and methods might be used to save his life. But Hermetic magic healing rituals do much more than save a life. They restore the person back to whole, and skip over recovery times. That's a bit more than saving a life, isn't it? It's more likely that life saving measures employed by Tranquillina or use of the CrCo guidelines for aiding recovery are more in line with Jewish Law.
Generally agree, except as stated above.
Okay, we're talking about two different things here, and it's helped me clarify my thinking. Three different things, actually.
From a game perspective standpoint, a Medium wound isn't dangerous to life and limb unless it goes bad (failed Recovery rolls, etc). From a perspective of what Pinchas knows, being stabbed or bitten by an adder is dangerous to life and limb because it has a potential to turn septic. So I semi-arbitrarily interpreted "a wound that has a 50% chance of killing you if untreated" (which is a halakhic guideline somewhere, though I can't find the reference) as a Medium wound. And "danger to life and limb" has been extended halakhically to substantial pain, loss of quality of life, etc. (It's been extended as far as allowing pregnant women to satisfy food cravings even if they're non-kosher: eating pork on Yom Kippur, things like that.)
If he is incapacitated and unable to give consent, then any means may be employed to save his life and he specifically doesn't have to feel guilty about it. It's the "do seconds count" guideline. But you are correct now that I think about it: if seconds do NOT count, then yes, Tranquillina's rituals or the recovery-aiding guidelines would probably be more in line with halakha.
I'm missing C or 3.
Sure, from a game perspective, the player knows it's dangerous. The character might not have the information to know if it's life threatening, though. And he might be aware of things back at the covenant that can help him recover very easily. So It then becomes very reasonable for Pinhas to come to some mental calculation that recovering with magical aid is better than having his body restored to being whole.
The challenge, is that one needs to convert vis to silver. Doing it through Redcaps is inefficient, and incurs rather large exchange rates. While it isn't widely known that Mons Electi has cash flow problems, it's not too difficult for Redcaps to figure it out. So the price in vis might be excessively high and it might also be in preferred Arts, either or both. Such a transaction is going to be a combination of things, and the reason I haven't opined on it, is because it's going to rely upon some bargaining with a Redcap to do the deed. The journey to acquire these texts will be long and arduous. What do you have for him?
Everything you said makes sense to me ... except the last question Are you asking me to propose a deal?
Tranquillina offers three pawns of vis, Herbam if she gets to choose, Corpus and Mentem also fully on the table, counteroffers welcome. Her argument is that the Redcap information network greatly facilitates locating such books, and their portals make travel a breeze, particularly in the Roman Tribunal where such texts are likely to be found. She proposes a pawn of vis per mundane book for the Redcap's trouble, and a third pawn of vis for arranging the payment onsite in local currency, which she acknowledges is another favor. She'll also throw in a few bottles of wine as additional bribes and door-openers
Alternatively, we could turn this into a story if you want - either Tranquillina can try to acquire the books herself, or maybe even Renaud is willing to take on the challenge/favor. The initial vis proposal was an OOC attempt to not worry about doing this in stories, thinking that you have a lot on your plate; but I have no problem with it.
It doesn't have to be a major story, but there's enough here that I want some rolls, and negotiation. Whether it happens between you and I or you and jebrick doesn't matter to me. Renaud has to nominally do some Redcap work, so this isn't a bad thing for him to do, and would further reinforce his lackadaisical approach to the job... He just seems to luck into these lucrative jobs, somehow...