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But seriously, is there a link to that wiki?

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So, I was rereading Ancient Discovery and it got me thinking about the Mercere portal network. As in most sagas, we've never really defined it, though we've done more than most, I think. I worked up a page on the wiki ages ago that had all the official (and some unofficial) links. But even that was a bit confusing. So today I did up a map that shows all the known links. Here it is (and it's on the wiki now):

Two observations:

  • There are no known portals in Hibernia, Loch Leglean, Thebes, Levant, or Provencal (except for Doissetep).
  • There are three separate networks, at least as we have them set. There's the main Harco network, a link between two covenants in Novgarod, and a link between Magvillus and Icy North, with a few minor links added.

It seems likely that there are more portals that simply haven't been mentioned. I suspect that it's best to leave that up in the air until it becomes an issue. But I thought I'd share my map and my observations.

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Right now we have the following people listed as members of the covenant on the wiki:


  • Carmen Perez of Flambeau: Pontifex Maxima, Treasurer
  • The Spider: Warden
  • Solomon of Guernicus: Inquisitor


  • Lucas de Mercere: Herald, Deputy Librarian
  • Roberto: Marshal
  • Vibria of Flambeau


  • Acutus Ilfetwis of Bjornaer
  • Cecilio Ex Bonisagus
  • Fleur of Bonisagus
  • Guiverna ex Miscellanea
  • Kesara of Flambeau


  • Elena, apprentice to Lucas
  • Gabriel, apprentice to Solomon
  • Lucien, apprentice to Carmen

We've already spoken about clearing some of the magi people out. Marko said that Solomon would be gone. What about Vocis? We also have a few journeymen that might not be active (Acutus, Cecilio, and Kesara). Gabriel would go with Solomon, and I'm not sure what the status of Fleur's apprentice was. As I recall, she was just using him for a few seasons of work and was then going to hand him off. Is he gone now?

Also, we'll need to add the new magi to the list as well.

Any observations or comments would be appreciated. Once I have some better info I can more some people off the active list and onto the "Former Magi" list.

Fleur's apprentice was away in fosterage for a year or so, but she is back. She joined the covenant in 1240, I'm not sure how long before that she had trained with Vulcanus… Of course Fleur will be the one to set her gauntlet unless she does give or sell her to someone else eventually, and I suspect Fleur's written exam on magic theory could be hellacious- especially the first time when she hasn't 'dialed it in' to what is appropriate for an apprentice...

This is what I have on the Covenant Thread on this site.
Carmen Perez of Flambeau (Pontifex Maxima) *
Arachne Ex-Miscellanea (Pontifex Majore) -
Solomon of Gurnicus (Pontifex Minore) -
Vocis of Tremere (Grand Master) -
Vibria of Flambeau (Mistress) -
Roberto of Flambeau (Master) +
Lucas of Mercere (Master) +
Acutus Ilfwetis of Bjornaer (Journeyman) -
Antoine of Verditius (Journeyman) -
Fleur de Bonisagus (Journeywoman) +
Guiverna Ex-Miscellanea (Journeywoman) *
Cecilio ex Bonisagus, the Younger (Journeywoman) -
(* Blatant Gift, - Normal Gift, + Gentle Gift/No Gift)

In needs to be edited though. Cecilio, Antoine, Acutus, and Solomon do appear to be no longer with us. Maybe Guiverna should go back to Bellaquin so as to not overextend Peregrine.

Can you give me her name and any details you have so I can update the wiki? I know it's deep in the archives somewhere, but if you have it at hand, it would be much easier than me digging. There was another apprentice that was given to the older magus we traveled with, wasn't there?

And I seem to recall that Roberto was at least thinking of taking an apprentice. Did he in the end? I can't recall.

Also, FWIW, the person playing Elena (Lucas's apprentice) is no longer around. So she's floating free as well.

So, with your permission, I'll move Cecilio, Antoine, Acutus, and Solomon (as well as Gabriel, Solomon's apprentice) over to the "Former" list.

Vera Belladonna Rudolphius, I have her current magic theory as being 7+2, I have a character sheet that I at least began before it was pointed out that the level of detail I was going for was excessive given her role... she has int of 4- that also affects labs...

I'm thinking I should drop Rilcheaux, the concept didn't work out as well as I liked and I don't have as much free time to devote to him as I used to.

She had apparently been apprenticed for 5 years before Fleur claimed her, which means she would have been apprenticed around 1135, and should be due to gauntlet in 1150, or thereabouts.

Vera is added to the list of apprentices.

And I found an entry for Edith of Flambeau (the other apprentice of Vulcanus). I now recall that instead of taking her as an apprentice, Roberto declared her fit to be a maga even though she hadn't finished her 15 years. He made her a maga (with some sort of approval from above, I think?) and has agreed to mentor her and finish her training. But I understand that's not a master-apprentice relationship with the obligations and benefits involved.

I had thought it was 7, but my memory is blurry. Her sister Edith claimed Battlefield Gauntlet as I recall. Roberto took on the role of Mentor for both her and Lucien. That is why Carmen would let Lucien go on expedition with Roberto for the Ancient History story.

I was just updating the two sisters and I saw that the entry for Edith states:

Vulcanus then took her as an Apprentice (as was her sister) when he absconded in 1232.

If that's correct, then both Edith and Vera were first apprenticed in 1232 (or maybe 1233). Roberto has gauntleted Edith. But if those dates are right, Vera should be gauntleted in 1247 (or maybe 1248).

Santiago is Roberto's Mentor, as established when I first created the character as a player in Novus Mane. He was never given stats because 1) he is an NPC that pulls strings in the background and has never been "on stage", and 2) I don't think it is fair for me to generate my own Mentor.
Roberto earned a "Battlefield Gauntlet" in 1212, seven years into apprenticeship. Santiago finished his training. He was Santiago's sidekick during the Shadow Wars, and witnessed as Santiago slew Rassus (the Infernalist ring leader of a rogue cult known as the Shadow Flambeau).
Joel Munis, Roberto's parens, was a Flambeau with the Gentle Gift who was also an Almogaten (mercenary captain) involved in the Reconquista. His crimes were revealed after he was killed at Las Navas de Tolosa (in 1212). Thus Roberto has the Flaw of Infamous Master. Santiago was also a criminal in this enterprise, but this was never exposed. He has since reformed and has the Dark Secret Flaw. Santiago has spent the last thirtysomething years trying to do good and wash away his past.
Roberto took Edith as a student in an unconscious effort to repeat this cycle.

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What about Kesara? Was she ever a PC or was she always an NPC? Is she still at the covenant? Right now she is listed as a maga of the covenant and has a tower assigned to her.

NPC. She was the daughter of a former player character.

Is she in or out? I have no horse in this race. I just want to know whether she stays on the list and still gets a tower for when I update the wiki.

I kinda like having Guiverna at Sa Dragonera (assuming that we keep it as a chapter house or as a spin-off mini-saga). Gives me an option to play a mage if Vibria's occupied or I just don't fee like playing her in a given story.

Keep Guiverna and (for now) Solomon. Kesara has gone her own way for now.

What about Vocis?

Vocis has been participating in All Roads Lead to Africa.