General Table Talk

I seem to recall someone saying Marko's posts didn't show.

Well, I can't see them, and I can't manage to find that post either :unamused:

I fixed it. Sorta. I just copied and pasted the ghost post into a new post along with other comments. And it is my fault, I freaked the thread out yesterday by cramming to much data into a single post then deleting it in favor of a shorter version and junk.
Anyway...
What we really should be doing is posting each character in their own separate development thread. People can make comments and you can make adjustments in that thread. Then, after all is ready, repost the edited character in a new clean thread with your characters name on it. That is the one which I will post a Link to in the Covenant Membership list.
The Wiki is a side thing, don't worry about that just yet. Characters get copied over there somehow. It is a mystery to me. Maybe elves?
So I am going to lead by example. I am going to post a "Roberto of Flambeau (Development)" thread. There, I will post what he looked like at Gauntlet (using Andorra CharGen rules), then again at the eand of each of his three cycles (Shadow Wars, Novus Mane, & Mons Electi), his Mustering Breakdown, and the final full character sheet with all the bells & whistles. I will also post sheets for his Familiar (Cidito), Companion (Johan VanHalen), two grogs (Carlos & Wen), and two henchmen bought & paid for (Allen & Albert).
And I invite you to pick them apart and hold me to my own standards.

Recently, I've tried to use the wiki to take snapshots.

On the pages I manages that are subject to change, I did copies, like "current covenant", "covenant in 1230"... I did the same with ArachnΓ©, taking a snapshot in 1230, and I'll take another in 1235.
I should do the same with all the characters, but this takes time.

Yeah. The wiki is a wonderful thing (there is a link to it in Fixer's signature line). But for a new player, it is easy to get lost in. There is such a massive amount of data accumulated over there. And as time progresses, you can feel free to add to it as you will.

My only quibble with the wiki (and the reason I don't make more use of it) is that so much seems to be "outdated." Hard to tell what's still relevant to the current campaign, which characters (mainly npcs, such as pretty much the Andorran Guard, as I discovered when I went to train Vibria with them) are still around, and so on.

In a perfect world, I think the outdated pages would have a big red "STOP" sign on the top, but it would be a lot of work to go through and flag the out-dated pages as such.

While I don't know what is or is not relevant in the wiki, I find the content to be outstanding. I just have to find the time to go through it all!

And I am crawling out of my skin waiting for this to get moving so I can get to playing!

Just go through what is relevant :slight_smile:

Yes.

And I can't really update it since I don't know :laughing:

I'd say concentrate on the 1230 info, read the rest as history, and ask marko if you've got a question (and update the wiki accordingly :smiling_imp: )

This is a good point. I try to keep all currently relevant and important information here on the Forum, mainly in the "Announcements Section" at the top. The Character Sheet links in the membership list go to the Character Sheets here on the Forum (with one or two exceptions that will be corrected).
Think of the wiki as a giant archive, where all players can contribute as many minute details as the want and place a stake in the creativity process. My work is only like 10% of what is there, mainly copied and pasted from something I posted here.
I have indeed found the wiki very useful though, but I treat it as the tool rather than the project.

So, my magus is (mostly) done, save for maybe a tweak here and there, and fleshing out the rest of his background. So with that done, and considering Ars Magica is troupe-style play...

Do I need to create any grogs or companions? Anything in particular that you'll need me to work on/create/update for the time being while we wait on getting the chapterhouse started? Any jokes you want me to tell? Crazy stories about my past you'd like to hear?

Dance! Dance like a monkey!!!!
Ah-Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Create a Companion and two Grogs :smiley:

Same rules for the Companion/Grogs as for the Magus? Mind if I use Templates for the Grogs? Ages for the above, considering XP amounts given for creating them? Any particular thread you want them in?

Mostly. Native Language 5, Native Area Lore 2, 45xp Childhood, 20xp/year Later Life. Just do it all in one lump sum.

Post them in the thread with development for your magus character, For now. Companions each will get their own separate thread along with each magus, eventually, and I have a thread around here for all of the grogs. I will dig it up or recreate it.

In the Resolutions of Charter, I have amended the section on membership.

Cool. I'll get on this tonight/tomorrow, and get them posted as soon as I have them done. I'm probably going to just use some of the base templates for the 2 grogs, but the Companion I've got an idea for...

The Resolutions state that a Master must renounce his oaths to all other covenants, but do not require a journeyman to do so. Is that intentional, in the sense that 'dual membership' is permitted?

Originally that was intentional, since Journeyman status was then intended to be short lived and temporary. I will change it, snipping that clause from Master and affixing it to Journeyman. A Pledge, who is legally a type of Protected Guest, can be a member of another covenant until they are accepted as Journeyman members and take the Oath of Covenant.
Also, I think that any Apprentice of a Master who was trained and gauntleted here should be automatically accepted as a Journeyman, or gets an immediate vote on their petition without having to be a pledge for seven seasons.

What say each of you?

Makes sense to me. After all, if he's been here for 15 years (or however long as the Master was here), the Council should have a decent grasp of what kind of person he is and don't have to spend two years getting to know him.

Yep, makes sense to me.

Also makes sense to me.