Covenant Development

[Salutor]

We were originally using one of the storerooms in the caves, but the proper Infirmary was built in Winter 1228.

[MTKnife]

That's a separate building? Where?

Scott

[Salutor]

I'm not sure it's defined beyond "a little way off from the other buildings".

For reference, Gregorius' description on the tour he gave the new magi was as follows:

@Gregorius

He leads off on the tour, pausing occasionally to give the new magi chances to ask questions.

"Where we are now is one of the two main buildings which survived at least partially from the previous covenant. It contains the kitchen and the dining room - you can either eat here, or ask the servants to have your food delivered to your quarters." He points towards the kitchen as he mentions it, but doesn't bother taking the magi there unless any of them seem actively interested.

Moving outside, he walks round the two-storey building you were in before to a central "courtyard", explaining as he does so: "That larger building contains quarters, the autocrat's office and the library. I'll show you that at the end of the tour, as I imagine people will want to look over the catalogue."

He gestures towards a couple of buildings set towards the northern part of the square which makes up the covenant clearing, a little distance from the courtyard. "Those are a couple of craftsmens' workshops. That one over there" - he points towards another building set a little way off on its own - "is the infirmary". The large building over near the watchtower is the barracks - things have got a lot less crowded in the main house since we got it completed a month or so back."

Most of the buildings around the courtyard are in a near complete state of ruin, but to the north of the courtyard an old foundation is filled with a tile mosaic. A stairwell leads down under it into the ground. Gregorius walks over to it, but stays at the edge. "This is an old temple. As well as the staircase down to the cavern system, there's a faerie aura within its perimeter, and also the entrance to a faerie regio where Viola has her sanctum. She likes her privacy, so I wouldn't recommend entering without her invitation - and it's not that easy anyway."

[Salutor]

@MTKnife

I'm not clear on whether the Aegis extends into the regio, however; I suppose it does.

That's an interesting point. I don't think it's been explicitly defined in the Rules. It's come up a few times before on the forums:

Aegis and regio : Aegis in level 1, Covenant in level 2

Ave Sodales, I am currently trying to create a covenant full of NPCs where my troupe will go sooner or later. That covenant is located in an old Roman site with powerful magical aura. It was a temple of Demeter, goddess of agriculture. Centuries ago a small regio appeared on that site and it now have two regio levels. -The mundane site is a mundane swamp. The temple was destroyed by brutal barbarians around 650a.c. -The first regio level is a small and humid valley with a few broken pillars …

Concerning Regiones and the Aegis

Strangely enough I've never created or visited a covenant that was partially in a regio, and now I'm wondering if an Aegis covering a covenant is also considered to be in effect for any parts of the covenant located in a regio within?

Regio, agies and covenants...oh my

Some questions about regio questions. If you have a 3 tier magic regio, say level 3 aura on top, a level 2, then a level 1 in the mundane world. Can you build a covenant on level 3 and put farms/servant quarters on level 2? Does the agies only cover one level, or all 3? How does the boundary qualify? I am of the opinion that an agies would cover all levels but it hasn't really been discuses as far as I know. How big is an average regio without taking vast regio? Vast regio says 5 miles…

General perspective seems to be "regio levels probably aren't covered, but there might be odd regiones where they are."

So it probably doesn't, unless you can make a strong argument for why it should in this case?

[MTKnife]

I wouldn't think it would cover it, with one exception: I'd rule that any spell targeting the inside of the regio would have to pass through the mundane level, and be affected by the Aegis--even with an arcane connection.

Scott

[Salutor]

Hmm. I don't have any very strong feelings about that either way, so happy to go for it.

One potentially relevant question, though - what about Arcadian Travel from the Faerie Realm?

[MTKnife]

Yeah, I thought of that. It's probably a moot point, since it's essentially impossible for someone who hasn't at least seen the place before. Mind you, this all goes back to that arcane argument about the nature of Arcadian Travel.

Scott

[Salutor]

The most likely person for it to be relevant to is Calliope, who has both been inside the lab before and has Arcadian Travel.

[MTKnife]

Not that Calliope is likely to be a threat, but ugh...just another reason for having to worry about the nature of Arcadian Travel--not that I can even remember what we ever decided about that.

Scott

[Salutor]

My inclination would normally be to say that if you're coming from Faerie into the regio, you don't need to go through the Aegis. The lab does have the impregnable flaw, which says that the lab is only accessible to "reasonably powerful magic", but Arcadian Travel from the Faerie Realm probably qualifies as that.

[MTKnife]

I don't think there's any other way in, and there are probably only a handful of magi in the Order with Arcadian Travel--and AFAIK Merinita don't have much of a tendency to try to kill each other--so I can live with that.

Scott

[Salutor]

Could you add what we decided about the interactions between the Aegis and the regiones to the relevant post in the Covenant thread for future reference?

[MTKnife]

Wouldn't it belong in house rules?

Scott

[Salutor]

It could go there too. The Covenant thread already has a post specifically on the Aegis, though, which is where I'd think to look for it by default.

[Salutor]

My current understanding of the labs:

Faerie Regio

• Viola's Lab

First Level of Caverns

• Big Lab: Originally Tasia, then Wishbone
• Ignem Lab: Gregorius
• Former Storeroom Lab: Formerly occupied (and expanded) by Stephen of Bonisagus, then by Timaios of Guernicus
• Former infirmary - not currently a lab, but could be set up to be.

Second Level of Caverns

• Fray's Lab
• Double-doored formerly flooded room: Set-up by Gregorius completed in Spring 1230. Occupied by Asena of Flambeau

Defunct

• Patrick the Unrepentant's outdoor ward lab (dismantled on Gregorius' orders after Patrick left).

Is that in line with other people's understanding? My key uncertainty is which way round Asena and Timaios are, although I note MTKnife's post here: Covenant suggests that Fray's lab is on the first level of the caves - I think that's wrong, though.

[MTKnife]

Ugh, I don't know. You couldn't find anything else on Fray's lab?

Scott

[Salutor]

There are a few references to it being on the second floor of the caves; for example: Chapter 2d - Spring 1228 - A Visitor From Afar

Also, Stephen's lab is noted as being on the first floor (Vacant and Guest Laboratories), and I'm fairly sure we didn't have both of the storerooms turned into labs (because one of them was being used as the infirmary up until relatively recently when a dedicated building was constructed for it).

[MTKnife]

That second also isn't really big enough.

Yes, it looks like you're right on this point.

Scott

[Salutor]

Are you okay for me to move a copy of the "who's got what lab" list to the Covenant and / or Vacant and Guest Laboratories threads (and are there any changes you think are needed to it before I do so)? I think it would be useful for the next time we're trying to assign labs to people.

[MTKnife]

Where is it now? Dumb question, I know, but I thought it was in the Covenant thread already.

Scott